The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada

Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by mynameishere on Sunday April 28, 2013 @02:18PM (#5622155)

Also, you can go to prison for thoughtcrimes. They don't mention that. Of course, that's also the case in the #1 "freest" country, Finland, so I guess they don't take that into account.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by sliverstorm on Sunday April 28, 2013 @05:14PM (#5622802)

How can you go to prison for thoughtcrimes? To my knowledge, mind reading technology is still in its infancy.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by lesterbuck on Monday April 29, 2013 @02:29AM (#5624399)

Sentence enhancement for hate crimes is essentially a form of thought crime, since "proving" you had certain thoughts in your head changes your sentence. There are interesting arguments both ways on hate crime sentencing, but make no mistake, it is sentencing you to (more) prison for your thoughts, not your actions.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by sliverstorm on Monday April 29, 2013 @05:22AM (#5624960)

Ah, so murder in the first degree is also a form of thought crime, as compared to manslaughter.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by tzs on Sunday April 28, 2013 @03:33PM (#5622421)

Examples?

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by Kudzu_Bob on Sunday April 28, 2013 @02:35PM (#5622202)

The other restrictions aren't aimed at any particular group, and therefore harbor at least the potential to silence Our Sort. But by their very design, hate speech laws only target a bunch of misfit losers who most definitely are Not Our Sort.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by dmix on Sunday April 28, 2013 @02:50PM (#5622251)

And similarly anti-terrorism laws only apply to terrorists. So we shouldn't care that they can be held for 3 days without charge.

http://www.therecord.com/news/canada/article/924121--ottawa-...

Regarding hate speech laws in Canada:

> "Although it's true that they have nailed some genuine hatemongers with it, it has nevertheless been used or threatened to be used against a wide variety of constituencies who don't bear the slightest resemblance to the kind of hatemongers that were originally envisioned: anti-American protesters, French-Canadian nationalists, a film sympathetic to South Africa's Nelson Mandela, a pro-Zionist book, a Jewish community leader, Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, and even a couple years ago, a pro-Israeli speaker was briefed about the anti-hate law by a police detective before he went in to make a speech."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Human_Rights_Commissio...

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by aclevernickname on Sunday April 28, 2013 @03:07PM (#5622322)

If I were a canadian, I would be looking through the Criminal Code of Canada to see what things _aren't_ considered an act of terrorism now. Since Harper's been in, the Canada Gazette has been full of changes.

(is a canadian, has looked through the criminal code, knows what is or isn't terrorism)

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by Kudzu_Bob on Sunday April 28, 2013 @03:45PM (#5622461)

Rightly or wrongly, those who employ capitalized phrases such as "Our Sort" and "Not Our Sort" often fancy themselves ironists.

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