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Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by zokier on Saturday April 13, 2013 @02:59PM (#5544229)
How about the standard solution, WPS. Depending on the method used, it does not require any UI-parts from the device (PIN or NFC methods) or just a simple push-button.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by killerpopiller on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:56PM (#5544443)
I thought wps still is vulnerably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by StavrosK on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:48PM (#5544404)
Why was that omitted? It should probably have been the first item on that list. Reinventing the wheel is fun, I guess...
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by rogerbinns on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:36PM (#5544366)
Electric Imp seems like a great solution (flash setup data from a smartphone to a light receiver on the device) but I wonder how they handle imposters. For example they brag about a connected door lock. If I was a bad guy I would go to the nearest window, and shine a bright light with the setup pattern through it hopefully reconfiguring the lock.

If they make it too hard to reconfigure the lock then it will increase the support load.

Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by jared314 on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:05PM (#5544250)
I've had a half baked idea about this for a few years. The thermostat has a terrible screen and is immobile, while my phone is the exact opposite. With Bluetooth LE, and perhaps NFC, you could make a configuration/maintenance interface that allowed for better setting management, using the phone as an interface.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by polshaw on Saturday April 13, 2013 @02:36PM (#5544131)
Very interested in this space; for a screenless device it seems to me that 'act as hotspot' and 'usb to pc' are the only real sensible options, although they are not exactly ideal.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by arthulia on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:19PM (#5544307)
A hot-spot is a bad idea because most computers can't connect to two wifi networks at once. That means any time you wanted to configure your thermostat, you'd have to disconnect from the internet.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by georgemcbay on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:33PM (#5544355)
The article was a bit simplistic here, but I think the more fully fleshed out idea is act-as-hotspot initially. When the device is first powered on or a reset button is pressed, it acts as a hotspot to which you can connect a webbrowser but on first connect to its configuration interface you are prompted to configure the device to switch to connecting to your normal wifi router so you can continue to hit it with a web browser, but over your normal local network.

IMO, this is actually the best way (in terms of overall simplicity, no need for extra hardware, etc) to handle the situation in practice.

Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by arthulia on Saturday April 13, 2013 @04:00PM (#5544459)
Oh, duh. I thought about that a little while after I made the comment.

It still seems like it would be a bit fidgety to set up unless the device itself had two wireless cards. If you give it the credentials to your home network but give it the wrong passphrase, it will still have to disconnect from your laptop, attempt to connect to the network, fail, and then start its own wifi network back up to tell you that it failed.

Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by tyilo on Saturday April 13, 2013 @01:57PM (#5543985)
The link is 404 for me.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by alexlitov on Saturday April 13, 2013 @02:12PM (#5544044)
works fine
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by tyilo on Saturday April 13, 2013 @02:33PM (#5544114)
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by jheitzeb on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:52PM (#5544421)
Can you try again and tell me what you see as the copyright statement in the footer? i.e. this: http://cl.ly/image/2I0a16260X0v what do YOU see? (it will tell me which server your hitting) - thanks!
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by jheitzeb on Saturday April 13, 2013 @04:00PM (#5544457)
Nevermind -- figured it out. We changed servers yesterday and the DNS hasn't propagated over for everyone yet.
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by oliao on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:33PM (#5544352)
what about speech recognition?
Re:Ways to Solve the Wi-Fi Authentication Issue for Devices by jheitzeb on Saturday April 13, 2013 @03:56PM (#5544442)
yeah, as the cost of hardware components continues to fall this will be an option (just add a mic, speaker and use the CPU already in there = pretty cheap)