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Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by nicksergeant on Friday March 15, 2013 @12:51PM (#5381507)
Yeah, I really don't understand what he's looking for here. He wants constructive criticism about what parts of Google Reader were useful, but if you complain at all, your comment will be deleted.

Google Reader itself was the useful piece. It aggregates RSS feeds. I don't really know how else you can explain that "yes, it aggregated RSS feeds, and I like to read all of my RSS feeds in one place".

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by scott_s on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:28PM (#5381768)
I thought it was straight-forward: he wants to understand what it was about Reader that users liked, so he can work on incorporating them into Google+. Since he does not have the power to save Reader, he's telling people this is not the venue to complain about its shutdown.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by roc on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:55PM (#5381957)
That's funny, I assumed it was a PR move to make Google appear responsive when they inevitably add an RSS-ish feature to syndicate news subscriptions into google+ feeds, as opposed to appearing like a malevolent plan to kill a beloved service to push more people into google+.

Hence it's counter-productive to mention the shutdown in negative terms, as that associates the two efforts in a way that underscores the latter interpretation.

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by scott_s on Friday March 15, 2013 @02:11PM (#5382055)
If it came from an executive or a press release, perhaps I would have assumed that. But it came from an engineer.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by roc on Friday March 15, 2013 @02:20PM (#5382113)
"an engineer", Chief Architect, same difference, right?
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by scott_s on Friday March 15, 2013 @02:41PM (#5382215)
Where I work, Chief Architects do not make decisions about killing products. That happens higher than them. Their responsibility is engineering the architecture of their product. So, yes, I think it's accurate to refer to a Chief Architect as "an engineer."
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by roc on Friday March 15, 2013 @03:37PM (#5382509)
> "Chief Architects do not make decisions about killing products."

No, but if you were trying to convince people you weren't forcing them into Google+, but Google+ was presenting alternatives out of their sincere love for the people, you wouldn't use the person who made the decision now would you?

And who better to stand up and ask "how can we help" than one of the people who will later take to the Google Blog to say "look what we added to Google+ because you asked for it?"

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by scott_s on Friday March 15, 2013 @04:19PM (#5382754)
An event's possibility is not evidence for its occurrence.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by saraid216 on Friday March 15, 2013 @03:13PM (#5382365)
The odd thing to me is that he phrased it as "many Google products", which sounds as if he's thinking about leaving the Google+ product.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by Smudge on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:51PM (#5381921)
I see both points here. My response would be similar to nicksergeant's. The parts of Google Reader I found useful were the parts where you could read RSS feeds. Will RSS be incorporated into Google+ somehow? I don't really understand what else he's getting at.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by ditojim on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:10PM (#5381625)
i also think this line of thinking is silly. the Googler is assuming a set of features is what made Google Reader the best RSS reader on the market. while that is true in essence (features do add up to the overall product) i don't think any 1 feature in reader was killer. rather, the collection of all the features made the app itself killer.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by rachelbythebay on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:19PM (#5381703)
In Mountain View, all problems are engineering problems.

Even when they aren't.

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by mcrittenden on Friday March 15, 2013 @12:59PM (#5381552)
I think he's asking what about Reader specifically made it more useful than the dozens of other RSS readers out there.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by masklinn on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:04PM (#5381586)
UI-less sync scheme between numerous devices, simpler application backends as the work of actually aggregating (querying and parsing feeds, notifying, ...) was handled by Reader and the client just had to implement a UI to that.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by r00fus on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:26PM (#5381755)
All I can gather from Google's recent moves is: "useful != profitable"... and Google's more interested in profit than utility now.
Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by rtwtlkj on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:54PM (#5381943)
I have to say I'm kind of glad. I have some AI ideas that I think are going to be killer. Currently in the early development stage. If they are focusing more on profit probably they can get distracted enough to not see me coming.

Currently worried that they are beefing up their AI pursuits because of the recent AI hires which could mean I don't even have a chance. Lets se what happens.

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by libria on Friday March 15, 2013 @02:15PM (#5382076)
I don't get it either. I mean, if he really wants to make me happy but can only build in the context of G+, make a "Reader" tab and open up Reader in an iframe that takes up 90% of the page (outer frame optional). There's nothing about G+'s layout (or mission?) that will be conducive to feed reading.

This is like asking me what I like about burgers so you can make a better salad.

Re:Chief Architect of Google+ requests clarification on Goog... by mixedbit on Friday March 15, 2013 @01:40PM (#5381838)
Maybe the intent was just to draw attention to his product? You liked the Reader? Now, that it is going to be killed, tell us what you liked about it so we can add these features to G+. And by the way, look how awesome we are, we care about your needs, you can already start using G+, don't wait until we add features from the Reader, because this will never happen.