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Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by grecy on Monday March 04, 2013 @02:01PM (#5319947)
> If you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself

The parent comment wasn't comparing NK to the USA.

It was comparing the USA to every other developed country, where the USA ranks very poorly.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Monday March 04, 2013 @03:37PM (#5320733)
"It was comparing the USA to every other developed country, where the USA ranks very poorly."

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

It does?

Doesn't Europe have at least one violent ethnic conflict going on at any given time? Usually several?

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by notahacker on Monday March 04, 2013 @05:41PM (#5321531)
If the best example of current US performance relative to other developed countries you can think of is "killed fewer people than other protagonists in last century's World Wars" (which is essentially what your cited stats show) you may as well not bother.

n.b. I'm sure Rummel would grudgingly admit that the US is far worse than any other developed country for committing acts of "democide" this century. In fact it's probably the only metric in which a sane person could argue the US might have performed worse than North Korea in recent years.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Monday March 04, 2013 @06:43PM (#5321822)
Yeah, I rank governments that murder millions of their own people pretty low on the scale of "human rights". Sorry.

Edit: Most of those people weren't "killed in World War II". They were murdered. By their own governments.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by notahacker on Monday March 04, 2013 @07:33PM (#5322048)
You responded to a comment that the US ranked poorly in relation to 'every other developed country' with an outdated casualty count implying the US government might have been less deadly to human life than Germany, Japan and the UK before 1945 (and also less deadly than a few non-developed countries since then). I'm pretty sure the same set of statistics points towards the US government causing more deaths than other developed countries since 1945, which is why I thought it probably didn't help your case. Sorry.
Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Wednesday March 06, 2013 @09:32PM (#5335643)
Yes, I take the long view when it comes to goverments.

I fully expect the current Eurozone crisis to devolve into bloodshed before it's over, by the way.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by grecy on Monday March 04, 2013 @07:01PM (#5321921)
> Yeah, I rank governments that murder millions of their own people pretty low on the scale of "human rights". Sorry.

You seem only interested in comparing the US to undeveloped and developing countries, which is not a useful comparison.

Why not compare the US to developed countries?

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by fleitz on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @07:58PM (#5328618)
Trail of tears...
Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by grecy on Monday March 04, 2013 @03:53PM (#5320840)
> It does?

Bottom of the list for everything that matters.

http://www.oecd.org/statistics/

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Monday March 04, 2013 @06:51PM (#5321863)
"Bottom of the list for everything that matters."

Except for "first choice to which to immigrate", oddly.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Monday March 04, 2013 @07:00PM (#5321917)
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SM.POP.NETM

It's called "voting with your feet".

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by grecy on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @12:05AM (#5323035)
..and by capita it's barely 20% of Australia's net immigration growth.
Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Wednesday March 06, 2013 @09:29PM (#5335629)
U.S. immigration is severely restricted. The waiting list can be up to 20 years long.

If the U.S. had the same immigration policies as, say, Canada or Australia, you could add an order of magnitude to those numbers. Easily.

Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by Turing_Machine on Monday March 04, 2013 @03:50PM (#5320815)
Re:The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea by kingkawn on Monday March 04, 2013 @02:41PM (#5320314)
Don't deny them their straw man.