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Re:Establishing secure connection by markkanof on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:09PM (#5306647)
I worked for a company that implemented a similar technique and it had positive results. The main features of one of their web based software products was a report generator. The report was quite complex and included a lot of calculations based hierarchical relationships of entities in the system. To build this report by hand would probably take hours, but the queries and calculations were all highly optimized and could be run by the server almost instantly.

Many users complained that they didn't like paying so much for this feature because it didn't really seem to be doing very much. Instead of trying to educate each individual customer about all the intricacies of the report they just added a dialog box that would display for ~10 seconds and step through a few fake progress messages. People stopped complaining about paying for the report, and I would assume that is because the progress messages made them feel like something complicated was happening.

Re:Establishing secure connection by zobzu on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:08PM (#5306957)
We implemented a similar thing a few years ago at a company I worked at. We designed a very fast system zero-knowledge matching over zillion entries. It was way faster than the "competition" (which arguably were slow because they just never cared). It took a few hours instead of a few days to run, basically.

While the results were 99.99% the same as from the slower solution, customers would think "it can't be right" or other things like that, and wouldn't trust the product.

We'd just give the result a day later. Fighting with customers expectations is sometimes very hard.

Re:Establishing secure connection by amalag on Friday March 01, 2013 @05:01PM (#5307220)
Then sell them the more advanced faster one for more money.
Re:Establishing secure connection by UnoriginalGuy on Friday March 01, 2013 @05:49PM (#5307470)
"Use our advanced cloud infrastructure to generate reports in under 8 hours!"
Re:Establishing secure connection by jd007 on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:27PM (#5307041)
This reminds of airport nowadays. They were getting a lot of complaints about the slow speed that checked luggage comes out of after landing, so they simply moved all arriving flights' gates to the furthest away possible from the luggage claiming area. People had to literally walk across the airport after they get off, but complaints about luggage speed dropped significantly.
Re:Establishing secure connection by igrekel on Friday March 01, 2013 @06:12PM (#5307568)
Actually, if I remember well (ut can<t remember where I get that from), another reason was so that people walk a little while to let their back recover from slouching all the flight before they pickup their heavy suitcase. Meaning in the end they had to bring less people out on a wheelchair.
Re:Establishing secure connection by lizzard on Friday March 01, 2013 @06:57PM (#5307735)
Maybe you mean this as a joke, but I am a wheelchair user, and it is often really not fun to push myself through the airport. So.... your joke falls a bit flat.
Re:Establishing secure connection by igrekel on Sunday March 03, 2013 @01:47AM (#5312790)
It wasn't a joke, I didn't explain myself properly. When some people pick up their heavy suitcase after slouching for a few hours, their back locks in and the airport has to put them in a wheelchair and take care of them and their luggage. Having people walk a few minutes more actually reduces the chances of that happening.
Re:Establishing secure connection by gknoy on Friday March 01, 2013 @07:17PM (#5307797)
I don't think he was joking, but rather implying that people with stiff backs could be more likely to injure themselves.
Re:Establishing secure connection by paulhauggis on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:47PM (#5306857)
I suppose it's the same mentality behind: "He's a manager..it doesn't seem like he's doing anything! His job is so easy!". You can replace "manager" with any management/leadership role.
Re:Establishing secure connection by zobzu on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:11PM (#5306975)
Well, playing golf is hard!
Re:Establishing secure connection by stickbranch on Friday March 01, 2013 @08:56PM (#5308124)
And attending meetings.
Re:Establishing secure connection by rachelbythebay on Friday March 01, 2013 @09:41PM (#5308213)
This happens with old-fashioned customer support and technical troubleshooting, too. It seems to be the temporal equivalent of putting scrap metal in electronics to make them seem heavier and thus "more reliable". The more I hear about it, the more I believe it.

I ran into this while doing phone and ticket support back in the day and tried to get my coworkers to join me in an experiment but they refused. We could have learned so much. I wrote about it: http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2012/07/14/difficulty/

Re:Establishing secure connection by nraynaud on Friday March 01, 2013 @06:32PM (#5307642)
This is a serious marketing problem about perceived value in B2B entreprise stuff. We had the same kind of problem the product was really technological: 15 years of research, a prover, 6-7 PhD and stuff like that. But I decided to simplify the interface to a minimum, and every parameter tuning should be automatic. We ended up with just a few buttons in a toolbar and a few views embedded in an eclipse plugin. Then the customers where thinking that an "eclipse plugin is not worth 10k€", because the technology was hidden.
Re:Establishing secure connection by dak1 on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:29PM (#5306760)
Why do stories like this make me depressed.
Re:Establishing secure connection by swalsh on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:45PM (#5306844)
Because (i'm guessing, since you're on HN) that you're an engineer. You spend all day telling the most logical thing ever created how to act. Its as predictable as a childrens television show. Human psychology is irrational, and thus unpredictable. The engineer psyche doesn't like that.
Re:Establishing secure connection by oh_sigh on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:44PM (#5307133)
Human psychology is irrational and unpredictable only for very narrow definitions of rationality. Just because we don't understand the brains operation doesn't mean it doesn't behave rationally
Re:Establishing secure connection by edmccard on Friday March 01, 2013 @05:28PM (#5307360)
Those definitions of rationality are useful _because_ they are narrow. If you redefine "rational" to mean "how the brain operates", you might be able to stop using the word "irrational", but...all the phenomena that previously fell into the "irrational" category will still exist, and people will still want to discuss them, so you might as well just use the same word for them as everyone else does.
Re:Establishing secure connection by oh_sigh on Friday March 01, 2013 @06:01PM (#5307527)
The term "rational" is already well defined. I was claiming that the OPs understanding of the meaning of rationality was limited, not that the term rationality was narrow.

There are many other words and phrases available for us to talk about this concept that are well understood and do not need to be redefined.

Re:Establishing secure connection by da02 on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:42PM (#5306834)
I feel the same way.

My guess: it's hard to consider adults are less curious than children, but more confident than children. In biology: maturity = stop of growth

Re:Establishing secure connection by craftkiller on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:37PM (#5306803)
because stories like those should make you depressed
Re:Establishing secure connection by DanBC on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:47PM (#5307149)
Now you've trained the users for the reduced app speed you can sell access to the advanced faster version.
Re:Establishing secure connection by ZoFreX on Friday March 01, 2013 @06:52PM (#5307712)
Can't find the article right now (help?) but Blogspot (now Blogger) can create blogs instantly - the loading spinner and wait are completely artificial, to assure users.