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Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by wmil on Monday February 04, 2013 @05:07AM (#5163337)
They're popular with people who take the subway. Think about it, you're sitting there for half an hour with no service. An app that pre-downloads all of a newspaper's stories is handy and easy to use.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by nodata on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:31AM (#5163571)
Most of the time the app does not predownload all of the content in advance though.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by larsberg on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:43AM (#5163599)
The Reuters app _used_ to download all the content and then was changed not to. Who does that?
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by DanWaterworth on Monday February 04, 2013 @07:02AM (#5163653)
Someone who can see the bandwidth cost, but not the utility.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by ollysb on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:03AM (#5163847)
It's static content, how much could it cost?
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by duncans on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:42AM (#5164003)
the cost of the bandwidth
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by ollysb on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @08:01AM (#5170402)
I mean, if the content is cached in a CDN the bandwidth is going to be negligible.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by bencollier49 on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:59AM (#5163643)
The bloke in charge of the server budget.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by hilko on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:23AM (#5163540)
Yes, but that market is covered by Instapaper and Pocket, among others.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by shadesandcolour on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:58AM (#5164055)
Sure it is, so long as you've remembered to fill Instapaper or Pocket with stories from the newspaper's website that you wanted to read. If you ran out the door without having time to peruse the stories on the internet this morning Instapaper won't do you any good.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by rapind on Monday February 04, 2013 @12:35PM (#5165600)
Neither will having an app that you didn't launch and sync before getting on the subway. Seems like the same amount of effort to me.

There's an advantage to Instapaper and company in that it's centralized and you only have to launch the one app to pull down all of your content regardless of the source.

Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by jarek on Monday February 04, 2013 @12:37PM (#5165617)
> Neither will having an app that you didn't launch and sync before getting on the subway. Seems like the same amount of effort to me.

And here I thought in 2013 apps could download their content in background when phone is idle. Maybe when the owner is sleeping at home with fast wifi all around. Might make too much sense though.

Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by URSpider94 on Monday February 04, 2013 @05:00PM (#5167444)
I can't tell if you're being purposefully obtuse or not.

iOS does not allow background downloading, unless your app is part of Newsstand. While it would seem to make sense to make your news delivery app appear in Newsstand, it does come with some trade-offs, most significantly that your app is locked inside the Newsstand shelf and can't be placed in a primary app slot.

And, even if your app is in Newsstand, you have to actively go into Settings and turn on background download on an app-by-app basis.

Finally, even then, the app will only background-download if you're on a WiFi connection. I agree, this makes sense in this age of metered WAN bandwidth.

So, if you're using iOS, there's a really good chance that you will not have that content before getting on the subway, unless you remember to click into it on the walk over to the station.

Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by jarek on Monday February 04, 2013 @05:04PM (#5167470)
I'm not being purposefully obtuse. I was not aware of this particular limitation of iOS (and probably numerous others). Permission-controlled background downloading would seem like a reasonable solution to this particular problem to me.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by URSpider94 on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:50PM (#5168085)
OK, good -- thought I might be taking troll-bait, but in that case, glad I could provide information.

In principle, you're exactly right -- but iOS in particular has been notoriously picky about app sandboxing, and there is a very short list of permissions that apps are allowed to ask for: location, push notification, and I believe now address book access.

Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by yareally on Monday February 04, 2013 @05:05PM (#5167480)
Perhaps not with iOS, but Android allows such things in their SDK. Guess iOS is just more restrictive in that manner.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by hilko on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @02:06PM (#5172517)
I've never tried this feature as it requires location services, but doesn't Instapaper offer exactly that? Location-based automatic downloading of new articles?
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by ersii on Monday February 04, 2013 @05:34AM (#5163399)
As long as it isn't a single application for each and every source you'd read things from.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by paigalhaes on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @12:33PM (#5171915)
well, at least in Lisbon (Portugal) we have GMS/UMTS coverage inside the subway (Metro) since 2006 :)
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by Sami_Lehtinen on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:02AM (#5164064)
What? No coverage in subway? You must live in Sahara.
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by tommorris on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:22AM (#5164163)
Or London six months ago...
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by wallawe on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:44AM (#5164279)
or DC
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by lprubin on Monday February 04, 2013 @10:15AM (#5164477)
or NYC
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by speik on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:54PM (#5166166)
Offtopic, but I prefer it that way. I hear enough people yammering away all day, I don't need it on my commute as well (I'd be fine with it if they just instituted data, but since when has the MTA ever done anything intelligently?)
Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by tommorris on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:04PM (#5167843)
Actually, London has data on the Underground (wifi) but no mobile signal.

(Okay, you could use Skype or whatever, but I'd expect the latency and reliability of the connection is too shitty for that.)

Re:No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app by jarek on Monday February 04, 2013 @12:39PM (#5165629)
So, modern infrastructure Sahara then :)