Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by PonyGumbo on Saturday March 14, 2009 @10:07AM
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On a related note, can anyone recommend a good registrar with a decent API? I'd like to offer domain registration as an add-on to my customers. I'm almost ready to go with OpenSRS, but I thought I'd ask the HN community first.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by axod on Saturday March 14, 2009 @06:54AM
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I'd much rather be known for doing something vaguely worthwhile, than being the guy who grabbed all the domains.
Grabbing domains, not using them, and trying to sell them is pretty much blackmail. It's certainly not a nice way to behave IMHO.
The issue though is that domain names are pretty much free to register, but obviously have a far higher value to some people - a loophole that people exploit to make a quick buck.
The other funny disconnect is how little traffic some "premium" domains get.
>> "Greetings.com, but Ham grabs it anyway, for $350,000."
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by omouse on Saturday March 14, 2009 @01:24PM
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I think the reason it gets a low amount of visitors is because it redirects to another website so if someone bookmarks the website, they aren't bookmarking the greetings.com domain. So those 8,100 US visitors a month are probably all new visitors. It sure doesn't hurt Hallmark to get new visitors that way.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by daleharvey on Saturday March 14, 2009 @06:43AM
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I dont, I like to spend my time actually creating wealth and helping people.
not taking advantage of a system that was just too well meaning from the start to try and screw people out of a few million. how nice would it be if the domain hoarders werent around now.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by parenthesis on Saturday March 14, 2009 @09:34AM
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With google and bookmarks, are domain names really that important? A lot of sites I visit regularly, I'm not even sure what the name is exactly, which doesn't matter, since I have them bookmarked, or I can just feel lucky on google.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by babyshake on Saturday March 14, 2009 @02:52AM
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This needs to be approached at the browser level.
It's not unfair for a browser to automatically redirect you if you accidently type .cm, or even to ask you if you really want to go to www.weddingshoes.com, since it's a spam site.
Of course, this benefits Google. But at least for the .cm loophole, it's a no brainer.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by krav on Saturday March 14, 2009 @07:06PM
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I disagree. It's valuable for hackers to see where money's being made on the web. Just 'cause the article is a couple years old doesn't mean that the practice still isn't happening.
Re:Kevin Ham, the $300 million master of Web domains (2007)
by alecco on Sunday March 15, 2009 @08:05PM
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> I disagree. It's valuable for hackers to see where money's being made on the web.
I know many (probably most) hackers figured this out early on.
> Just 'cause the article is a couple years old doesn't mean that the practice still isn't happening.
I didn't say that. Of course it's happening. We're reminded of this mess every time we need to register a domain.
In my case, a domain squatter registered the domain with my name and lastname dot com and had it in ransom-style for years asking 4 digit numbers to transfer it. Network Solutions lives off this scammers and didn't even bother to help. Luckily I got one of the more tame scammers and he didn't put an offensive page. After enduring this for 8 years they let it go and I could register.
It would be good if the big names stop linking and buying domains from this scum. It would be better if the domain name system is redesigned to prevent this behavior.
Grabbing domains, not using them, and trying to sell them is pretty much blackmail. It's certainly not a nice way to behave IMHO.
The issue though is that domain names are pretty much free to register, but obviously have a far higher value to some people - a loophole that people exploit to make a quick buck.
The other funny disconnect is how little traffic some "premium" domains get.
>> "Greetings.com, but Ham grabs it anyway, for $350,000."
Quantcast says it gets 8,100 US visitors a month.
Whois Record
not taking advantage of a system that was just too well meaning from the start to try and screw people out of a few million. how nice would it be if the domain hoarders werent around now.
"this is why we cant have nice things"
there is always a new opportunity - better to take part in them than to read about them in retrospect.
It's not unfair for a browser to automatically redirect you if you accidently type .cm, or even to ask you if you really want to go to www.weddingshoes.com, since it's a spam site.
Of course, this benefits Google. But at least for the .cm loophole, it's a no brainer.
They're rather vocal about this hack: http://blog.opendns.com/category/cctlds/
In my case, a domain squatter registered the domain with my name and lastname dot com and had it in ransom-style for years asking 4 digit numbers to transfer it. Network Solutions lives off this scammers and didn't even bother to help. Luckily I got one of the more tame scammers and he didn't put an offensive page. After enduring this for 8 years they let it go and I could register.
It would be good if the big names stop linking and buying domains from this scum. It would be better if the domain name system is redesigned to prevent this behavior.