We used the Ubiquiti wireless access points at my last job. Aside from being awesome for the price, the management software was a cinch to install on Ubuntu and seemed quite cool (what little I saw of it). They really seem to know what they're doing.
That isn't a router, that is only a wireless access point, big difference!
Oh it routes just fine. Add a cheap switch if you need ethernet ports.
How exactly is that not a router? It takes packets and decides which of several interfaces to transfer them out on. That's the very definition of a "router". It even does such exotic stuff as dynamic NAT, firewalling, and DHCP provisioning.
Re:Belkin Buys Linksys from Cisco
by darkarmani on Friday January 25, 2013 @09:44AM
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Actually that is the definition of a switch. Routing happens at layer 3 between networks domains.
I'm sure this is going to turn into a semantics battle with the layers blurring, but traditionally all routing happens at the IP address level.
It is indeed a semantic battle. But as for semantics: sorry, that's just wrong. A switch connects the same network transparently. A device doesn't need to know that there is a switch in place to find, say, 8.8.8.8. It just ARPs for the destination address and sends the packet. If you are connected to a wifi router, you must send a packet destined for 8.8.8.8 to the router, because it is your gateway.
Re:Belkin Buys Linksys from Cisco
by darkarmani on Friday January 25, 2013 @12:16PM
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I think we agree, but looking back my sentences are ambiguous. I slashed a lot of content out and lost the transitions. I meant that is the definition of a switch (not a router) and that a router does the following things, not that a switch is a router.
Routers will traditionally have more than a 180MHz CPU to deal with all the duties a router must contend with, they also have more than one Ethernet port, you know for WAN and for Wired LAN. This will only work as a Router if every device on your network is wireless, either that or you have no internet.
If it supports VLAN/802.1q then single ethernet port is enough to do routing on wired networks.
Yup. OpenWRT supports 802.1q VLANs. So does the stock firmware from Ubiquiti, AirOS (which is just linux).
http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/networking/network.interfaces#vl...
You're using a marketing definition for router, apparently meaning a (presumably expensive) rack-mounted piece of IT equipment. But traditionally "router" has been a technical term, and your wifi hardware absolutely meets the requirements.
Does it run a routing protocol?
Is NAT not a routing protocol? It certainly seems so to me -- you dynamically change your packet destinations, error behavior, and even their contents based on dynamic state detected from the network.
But yes, you mean OSPF et. al. Yes, you can certainly run those on a wifi router (they don't from the factory, so reflash with dd-wrt or whatever). Machines much less powerful were doing dynamic routing using these protocols 20 years ago.
It runs static routes just fine ;-)
You can bake in quagga using their SDK if you want OSPF etc.
Re:Belkin Buys Linksys from Cisco
by dholowiski on Thursday January 24, 2013 @08:50PM
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I totally agree. I have a couple of the Nanostation Loco's for a woreless link at work and they're excellent, and ridiculously cheap.
This is a really cool looking company, thanks for pointing it out!
Have you tried Mikrotik Routerboard? I know they are cheap and wireless oriented too (but they use proprietary router sw) but I've never had the opportunity to try one.
http://www.mikrotik.com/ http://routerboard.com/
I haven't personally used Mikrotik products, but I know a few people who have and they really like them. It's on my list of things to buy and try out when I have time & money
http://www.ubnt.com/
$80 will get you a legal-maximum 1000 mW transmitting, fully OpenWRT-compatible router with 8M flash, 32M RAM, a PoE injector, outdoor enclosure, mounting bracket, and a standard replaceable RP-SMA omni antenna.
http://www.ubnt.com/picostation