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Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by thatsabadlook on Saturday November 14, 2026 @05:49AM (#50495935)
People have been mentioning about how all of ai is a circular financing scheme for months. Anthropic, openai, meta, etc. they all have been meeting with one another and making really insane deals. I am curious what the details are specifically, but I am shocked to find that anyone let this go on this long and only now decided to act.

It would be historically entertaining if all the ai hype crowd found out they have been hyping a ccp scheme to crash the us economy to the point where even the military was cheering it on. But the truth is, this is just how business works now that billionaires and trillionaires can do what they want.

I want what's best for the US but acting this slowly puts any meaningful repercussions for this behavior into the realm of theatrics rather then lessons learned. Oh well I guess some people got really wealthy so we should all be cheering while the price of food and everything else is insane.

Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by dylan604 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @06:28AM (#50496146)
Who decided to act? Some dirt that everyone thought was swept under the rug leaked, and now everyone can see how much of a dirt bag Jensen is. It's looking to me like the house that Jensen built is just a bit less raggedy than a house of cards built on sand on top of an active fault line. The news of these deals isn't a recent revelation. The recent news is that there's possible skirting of laws by the company led by a philanderer at best with one of his trysts being with a foreign spy. There is no good light to paint this.
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by enoint on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:47AM (#50497008)
Such an important company, with no succession plan. He had 60 direct reports.
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by torginus on Saturday November 14, 2026 @06:29AM (#50496153)
Why CCP? That Nvidia has been irking Wall Street bankers by acting like a bank has been public knowledge for quite a while. What Nvidia did is instead of selling their GPUs for $10, they sold them for $100, with very favorable terms over a long time, creating lots of (cheap) debt for others, who were mainly datacenter companies, who could then pay off the loans and rent out the GPUs at razor thin margins.

This scheme had pissed off bankers that a company muscled in on their turf, created lots of debt in a time when US debt was already sky high and becoming unpopular, relied on GPU depreciation being low (implying tech progress was slow, which didn't gel with the singularity crowd), and getting crazy rich in the process.

I don't even know how China factors into this other than competing with the US

Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by mr_toad on Saturday November 14, 2026 @07:56AM (#50496658)
> This scheme had pissed off bankers that a company muscled in on their turf

Weird if true, because businesses having a side-line in financing their customers is extremely common. Most large retailers, car dealers etc all do it. Sometimes they outsource to a third party, but sometimes they do it all in house. In a few cases they end up making more money as a finance company than the business they started in.

Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by retwakm4 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:06AM (#50496722)
Yeah, but at this scale, it's mostly banks and private equity and other finance companies, right? Like, funding enormous data centers type debt?

I've seen it be done with consumers and small B2B but not big giant business finance like this before.

Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by Geezus_42 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:19AM (#50496800)
I remember hearing about a large US company that had a financing arm that was way bigger than the primary business they were known for.
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by Merrill on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:46AM (#50497000)
GE Capital during the 2008 financial crisis?
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by Geezus_42 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @09:27AM (#50497272)
That's the one I was think of.
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by Nursie on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:52AM (#50497042)
Might have been IBM at some points in the past, unsure these days.
Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by DANmode on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:24AM (#50496827)
> I am curious what the details are specifically

So are most of the shareholders: most of this crap is off of the balance sheet until (if) it comes online!

In the first nine months of 2026, Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, Meta, and Oracle spent $556.9 billion on capital expenditures against $542.9 billion in operating cash flow, leaving their combined quarterly at -$33 billion.

Off-balance-sheet AI obligations across MSFT, AMZN, GOOGL, META, and ORCL are roughly $3.2 trillion (nearly six times capex).

Oracle is doing cute stuff like locking itself into 15 to 19 year facility leases while only signing customer contracts lasting up to five years. Some sites, they can’t even finish building.

Re:Nvidia Allegedly Engineered Scarcity by Funding AI Startu... by poopingatwork on Saturday November 14, 2026 @08:50AM (#50497030)
It's easy man, just get out there and educate the masses so they can see things your way.