As long as it's required to have an account with Apple or Google I'm not going to use it.

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll have a choice for most of it.

We do, it's not like this wouldn't work without play integrity. They'd just have to trust the user a bit more.

You always have that choice. And on the other hand, when principles are in the game, there is in fact no choice: it is a no.

We do not associate with lowly lunatics that believe normal a demand to have google or apple accounts.

Its not just the account. You essentially have to give Apple/Google FULL ROOTKIT access to your device which includes all of your personal data for the hardware attestation to work...

> The idea is that every person will have the option to use a wallet.

And then effectively bully the rest of the population to also use it, because companies/service-providers make using alternative methods much harder to use, because they are more expensive.

It's unfortunately predictable how this will play out.

How are passkeys, passwords, or social login more expensive to implement?

What am I missing?

Or are you talking about non-electronic means of authentication, like presenting a passport or driver's license?

> Or are you talking about non-electronic means of authentication, like presenting a passport or driver's license?

Yes, I think that would be a more appropriate comparison. Alternatives are very expensive and very hard to implement in-house

> What am I missing?

This is about government-issued credentials. When you provide a digital service in the EU where that service is required to determine the age of a user then the EU wallet is able to prove that the user is above a certain age. Or if you actually need to verify the legal identity of a user, then the EU wallet will be able to provide that identity to you. It is as official as it can get.

If you want to use your own age-verification or id-verification, then you need to rely on face scanning and other creepy stuff. The EU wallet is better in that regard, but it's existence will also mean that the EU and national governments will push harder for people to be identified online and offline. Using the internet anonymously will get a lot harder.

Ah, thanks for explaining. I was focused on the authentication aspects of the wallet. I can certainly see how the IDV and age-verification functionality would impact private vendors.

Aadhaar from India is an example. Even by the law you must be able to live without it, it is not practice in case and banks and telecoms demand it.

And when you lost your phone say bye to your life.

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