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Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by jappgar on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:26PM (#50470862)
"It's not immoral to violate trade sanctions if you don't think they should exist".
Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by ifyoubuildit on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:44PM (#50471163)
Can you make the case for trade sanctions being a moral issue?
Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by toast0 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:57PM (#50471364)
It would depend on the reason for the sanctions...

If the sanctions are to prevent buying the products of slavery, that's a moral issue, and violating the sactions is also a moral issue.

Same deal if the sanctions are to prevent selling things that will be used to carry out genocide/etc. That's a moral issue, so violating the sanctions is a moral issue.

I don't think there's an alegation that the GPUs will be used for immoral purposes, just that the US government has national security concerns. Those concerns may or may not be valid, and may or may not be served by having trade sanctions applied effectively, but I don't think that's a question of morality.

It's not de facto immoral to violate the law. It could be immoral to violate the law and conceal it.

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by ifyoubuildit on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:04PM (#50471467)
> It would depend on the reason for the sanctions...

But then it would be the thing that is sanctioned that is the immoral activity, not the breaking of a sanction, right?

It's like you said, unlawful != immoral.

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by toast0 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:19PM (#50471697)
I think you can make a case that breaking a rule intended to prevent immoral activity is in and of itself immoral, even if breaking the rule didn't result in the immoral activity.

It's arguable either way, morality isn't a formal logic. There's no right answer, and it's mostly judged by popular consensus... If there is a final authority, they don't publish their notes. :p

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by jappgar on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:05PM (#50472483)
It would be immoral to sell weapons to your nation's enemies but not to your allies.

Unless you're saying that disloyalty and betrayal are not issues of morality.

It's very interesting to read here that Jensen is immoral for betraying his wife but not for betraying his country.

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by SR2Z on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:44PM (#50472124)
Isn't the specific trade law being broken related to arms control and dual-use technology?

IMO it's not a terribly strong case to make while Boeing sells whole jetliners to China, but the law was put in place for both moral and practical reasons.

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by d1sxeyes on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:50PM (#50471257)
Absolutely. Immoral and illegal/unlawful are separate things alogether.
Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by kelnos on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:20PM (#50471711)
Sure, why not? Morality and law are not always aligned. I'm not sure I would go so far to consider these sorts of trade sanctions "immoral", but I wouldn't fault someone for believing so.

In this case, though, I think Huang just believed these sanctions were the wrong move, and would end up long-term helping China and hurting the US. Which is fair to believe, but believing a law is counterproductive doesn't give you immunity if you break it.

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by adolph on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:37PM (#50472014)
> Morality and law are not always aligned

This is a significant philosophical point.

  The thing about that Lord Moulton said is that there are a bunch of things that are wrong that are not illegal, and we have to do that because people have to be capable of self-control. Patrick Deneen, in . . . The Failure of Liberalism said that he thinks liberalism is failing because it has come to the view that anything that is not illegal is moral. 
https://www.econtalk.org/public-choice-and-politics-without-....
Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by jappgar on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:07PM (#50472528)
Is it immoral for Jensen to cheat on his wife?

What if he "believed fidelity was the wrong move" and that he'd end up divorced eventually anyways?

When is disloyalty and dishonesty immoral?

Re:NVIDIA Announces CEO Transition by kergonath on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:20PM (#50473602)
It’s something you are not equipped to judge. You don’t know much about his private life and the private life of the people around him. Having sex in itself is not the problem, and so far what was demonstrated was that he had sex, at least one with an alleged spy evading trade sanctions, and once with a subordinate. Either are improper and ground for firing; both together are untenable (plus the possibility that there are other skeletons; we don’t know for now).

The relationship with his wife is neither here nor there, unless she wants to make it public. If she feels betrayed, wants a quick buck, or otherwise wants to for any reason, she will sue for divorce and, considering the publicity of the cases, she should get a favourable judgement.

It’s easy to impose our morals on others. But more than half of republicans believe that gay sex is immoral just as strongly as you believe that adultery is.