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Re:Anthropic IPO by p-e-w on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:06AM (#50465982)
$23 billion quarterly net loss.

Hundreds of billions in future liabilities.

IPO valuation above $1 trillion.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

Re:Anthropic IPO by A_D_E_P_T on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:08AM (#50466012)
I unironically believe that bitcoin -- and, downstream, the memestock -- have everything to do with this.

Old-school fundamentals are laughed at or handwaved away. FOMO rules the day. "If Anthropic is the first to AGI, it'll take over every industry and go to the moon!"

Re:Anthropic IPO by p-e-w on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:10AM (#50466041)
Sure, and if it isn’t, investors just flushed a freight train loaded with dollar bills down the world’s largest toilet.
Re:Anthropic IPO by mxschumacher on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:15AM (#50466083)
the question is: who will rise in the ashes of the bust, in a world of abundant compute availability and an upgraded power system?
Re:Anthropic IPO by Avicebron on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:40AM (#50466305)
Do we have an upgraded power system? I'm all for reforming our electrical infrastructure, but what I'm hearing is that we've got creaking infrastructure and the "supplement" is huge generators towed outside the datacenter...
Re:Anthropic IPO by mxschumacher on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:42AM (#50466323)
gigantic order books for gas turbines and power grid infra, unless projects get cancelled, massive additional capacity is coming, yes.
Re:Anthropic IPO by dotancohen on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:17AM (#50466099)
Nobody is buying these companies because they believe that the company is valuable. They are buying these stocks because they believe that the stock may be more valuable tomorrow than it is today. Whatever the company behind the stock does or does not do, really doesn't matter. AI glitters like gold today.

Yet to be seen if it tarnishes.

Re:Anthropic IPO by datakan on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:38AM (#50466291)
>"If Anthropic is the first to AGI, it'll take over every industry and go to the moon!"

Meanwhile the hyper advanced software company's shitty electron app still flickers so bad on a high refresh monitor that it should require an epilepsy warning. I'll never understand the love for Anthropic, they legitimately have the worst software I have used outside of Microsoft.

Re:Anthropic IPO by HeavyStorm on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:09AM (#50466022)
What the hell is 15% adjusted margin? Lots of mathmagic there I guess...
Re:Anthropic IPO by Kwpolska on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:17AM (#50466100)
The real number with standard accounting rules is a loss of $567 million (-3% operating margin). But they're adding in "Stock-based compensation expense" (~$1B) and "Non-cash charitable contributions" (~$2B), and they end up with a profit of $2.5 billion.
Re:Anthropic IPO by yorwba on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:35AM (#50466263)
If you want to know whether the business is hemorrhaging money and will soon be bankrupt, excluding funny money they printed at no cost to themselves is perfectly sensible. Of course for the IPO investors, who're being asked to buy that funny money for real cash, it's a bit concerning if they give away so much of it to other people for less.
Re:Anthropic IPO by juliie on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:14AM (#50466065)
To be fair, that loss includes over $20b from instruments like convertible notes. They're not equity, so the increase in their value has to be reported as a loss. But in the context of this IPO, they will behave like equity, and just turn into stock. That's not money anthropic will pay, it will just dilute investors during IPO.

Reporting an increase in the value of the company as a loss is weird, but they have to do it. this is a case where adjusted earnings give a better idea of how the business is going.

Re:Anthropic IPO by jfckenfishf on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:34AM (#50466252)
But looking forward, when they want to buy new compute they will need to start deploying real cash instead of convertible notes, no?

So even the convertible notes loss isn't a real loss, doesn't it predict the post IPO losses they will have?

Re:Anthropic IPO by lofaszvanitt on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:14AM (#50466072)
It's going to skyrocket. :DDD
Re:Anthropic IPO by the_duke on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:23AM (#50466169)
As the page says, almost 22bn of that is a book loss due to share price increase.

So their loss is actually small compared to revenue.

Re:Anthropic IPO by epolanski on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:30AM (#50466223)
And buying too!