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Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by nerevarthelame on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:13AM (#50454398)
This is a good example of the difference between an LLM providing a theorem and a person deducing theorem, and all the juicy knowledge we get from truly understanding things: the Google SWE found something he thought was undiscovered. He asked AI to make an image what it might've looked like and speculated that it was used by the local elite.

But Dr. Estrada-Belli found something that was undiscovered. Finding this structure wasn't his number one goal - it was the side effect of a larger anthropological assessment that allowed him to improve estimates about population density of the north versus south, how Mayan homes and farms are distributed, what this means about social relationships between the elite and common people, how different regions were interconnected, etc.

Interestingly, one of Dr. Estrada-Belli's primary conclusions is not that these structures were only used by "the local elite," but that the closeness of residences and farms to these community sites suggests that the elite and the common people actually had a much closer and nuanced relationship than we previously thought. That's the opposite conclusion you'd get from the Google SWE's assessment.

Knowing that a Mayan site exists is one thing. Understanding what it means is another.

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by wholinator2 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:23AM (#50454514)
Very reminiscent of my experience pointing persistent agents at computational physics problems. It can find amazing results and really surprise me, make a write up, and convince me it's a real discovery... until i tell it to do a literature search, and be meticulous. Then it comes back saying "prior art has reduced the novelty of the discovery", and finds papers explaining the discoveries very easily and intelligently.

Perhaps google SWE should have requested a literature search before publishing his results as novel

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by samudrijan on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:57AM (#50454910)
It’s like a shell game. It’s likely overfitting on its training data.
Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by ebertucc on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:59AM (#50454929)
I enjoy the contrite rationalizations and turns of phrase LLMs use when encountering a discrepancy.

"Prior art has reduced the novelty of the discovery" is a great one

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by idiotsecant on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @12:17PM (#50455867)
Maybe LLMs are getting a little too good at emulating humans.
Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by jgilias on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @11:09AM (#50455046)
A fancy autocomplete still. Said with no intent to disparage. If the prior art hasn’t been pulled into the context window, it’s not surprising for the completion to not take it into consideration.
Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by FartyMcFarter on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @11:17AM (#50455122)
Sometimes I feel like a fancy autocomplete myself.

Besides, the LLM can use tools such as search via its harness, so depending on how strictly you define "autocomplete" this alone could disqualify it from being an autocomplete, fancy or otherwise.

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by jgilias on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @11:36AM (#50455371)
For sure yeah! What I’m pointing out is that I see people mistaking LLMs for “truth engines”, when they’re not. I find the “autocomplete” mental model really useful for when I work with LLMs myself. E.g., always keep in mind what’s in context, what’s not, where to get context.

Goes without saying - humans are no truth engines either lol.

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by nickalaso on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:28AM (#50454564)
IMO, his primary mistake was not turning the agent swarm on a proper research task that exhaustively determined whether it had been discovered or not.
Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by epistasis on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:55AM (#50454873)
Well the Google SWE didn't make a mistake, the media made a mistake in misreporting it, and we at HN are making a mistake by giving it undue attention.

We are reading this article because it continues and amplifies the AI hype machine, and no other reason. If a motivated amateur had made the discovery through any other means, and motivated amateurs do things like this all the time, then it would never have gotten an article, never shown up on the HN feed.

Re:Google SWE points 48 AI agents at NASA Lidar, finds unmap... by biggc on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @12:07PM (#50455744)
And then another agent swarm to make sure that the research swarm didn't hallucinate any false positive matches!

LLMs are great, and they keep getting better, but I'm so tired of current shortcomings being blamed on the prompter "holding it wrong".