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Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:15AM (#50451235)
> That Numbers are a gateway to quantitative reasoning seems a perfectly reasonable claim either way

This isn't true though. It's not supported by anything except Bronze Age tradition.

I.e., when teaching kids advanced math at an early age it's often better to skip numbers altogether and start with set theory or logic. Many kids find that a much easier gateway.

Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by bmacho on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @05:35AM (#50451819)
> I.e., when teaching kids advanced math at an early age it's often better to skip numbers altogether and start with set theory or logic.

What do you mean by "often better". Has it even ever been tried out?

Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by GTP on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @05:47AM (#50451897)
I belive this is what was attemped in France (they taught set teory in an abstract way in elementary school), but with poor results and abandoned this approach after some time.
Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @06:20AM (#50452101)
> Has it even ever been tried out?

Of course, and it's standard practice in some places.

P.S. I'm talking about extracurricular math clubs/circles. School curriculum is a separate thing that's divorced from actual math.

Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by bmacho on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @06:45AM (#50452270)
Math club for set theory before 1st grade and numbers? Do you have a link?
Re:Six Math Essentials by Terence Tao by adrian_b on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @07:46AM (#50452752)
Set theory and logic stay below numbers, but they do not belong to quantitative thinking.

By definition, quantities, either discrete or continuous, as already classified by Aristotle, are the properties that can be expressed by numeric values, as a result of counting for discrete quantities, or as a result of measuring for continuous quantities.

Properties that are not quantities, but which can be compared, to determine which is greater or less, or if they are equal, are qualities.

The simplest numbers, i.e. cardinal numbers a.k.a. natural numbers, are equivalence classes of sets, so indeed the theory of numbers is built upon that of sets (a.k.a. multitudes in older language), but this does not contradict in any way the title from the book, because quantitative thinking refers to only a part of mathematics, not to all of ite.