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Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by Xunjin on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:58AM (#50440465)
Is it possible to be used on bigger models with the same gains?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:14AM (#50440681)
Yes, you can use it on trillion parameter class AI models.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by tmule on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:22AM (#50440813)
Validated how?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by ngruhn on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:02AM (#50440533)
No idea if the paper has merit but the UI is slop:

- gradient headline

- random vertical scrollbar on mobile

- fingernail cards

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by dofm on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:04AM (#50440573)
> - fingernail cards

I did not know that this was the name for these but I am glad I now do :-)

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by bensyverson on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:15AM (#50440697)
omg, this is the perfect name for this. Much better than "colored left-border."

It's very curious that the models are so drawn to a fingernail (left border callout) when they must be sparse in the training data (human designers don't do this a ton).

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by whizzter on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:05AM (#50440582)
Really, started looking at the page and the slop trigger hit quickly enough for me to just skim the structure of the page and close it.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:12AM (#50440665)
Maybe it will be better if you focused more at the research rather than doing such things. Our website it not optimised for mobile users as it has more explanation to do rather than just make visitors feel good. Good luck with the things you are going.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by ngruhn on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:33AM (#50440963)
It's a bad smell. As a reader, if the first thing you see is slop, you risk that the rest is also slop and you're wasting your attention.

If UI is not your area or priority, that's ok. Why not just post an Arxiv link?

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by ElectricalUnion on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:03AM (#50440552)
What is the point of using a outright ancient model like DeepSeek-R1-Distill-1.5B from 2025 based on another ancient model like Qwen2.5-Math-1.5B from 2024, when a much better modern model like LFM3-1.7B exists?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:08AM (#50440620)
We have tested it on all kinds of small models including LFM3-1.7B. Our goal is to make a a system that can compress any AI. This is our first version and with your feedback we can improve.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by NitpickLawyer on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:10AM (#50440641)
This is a well known tell for using (bad) models to do "research". They always use qwen2.5 and R1, because of the amount of "news" that the two models received. So the models "suggest" those lineages a lot. The local llama sub used to get a few of these a day. That and a zenodo "paper" link are clear tells of badly written stuff.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by dannyw on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:14AM (#50440682)
Although with Anthropic purposefully sandbagging their models for AI R&D, how much of it comes down to model failure, and how much of it comes to deliberate misalignment of the model maker and the customers they sell to?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by mapcars on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:07AM (#50440601)
So this is very good for making local models more accessible, right?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:20AM (#50440781)
Correct, you will be able to compress, load and talk with any AI models. This algorithm compressed all model weights by upto 3x.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by fishfasell on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:09AM (#50440625)
I know a gen AI UI when I see one and this has all of the red flags. Hate to say it but I feel like that compromises the legitimacy of this
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by drum55 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:14AM (#50440691)
> Sorry, you’re right, I didn’t actually implement any compression here! My response was misleading.

Sadly that’s just got to be assumption when there’s no human in the loop.

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:21AM (#50440797)
The website was made with Gemini. Not a big html coder. I was a bit busy on doing research on things that matter rather than focusing on UI
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by twobitshifter on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:32AM (#50440949)
If you click through to the home page of the site you are greeting with the perfect genAI tagline:

“We didn't just build an AI voice bot. We engineered a full-stack autonomous AI call center platform with quick call center setup in 3 minutes.”

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by crunkmcgoop on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:15AM (#50440696)
I compress everything using the Sloot Digital Coding System, only use 50k for all my data!
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by k__ on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:40AM (#50441060)
Is it using full-bit encryption?
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by crunkmcgoop on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:57AM (#50442180)
I save all the 1’s in the cloud, and the 0’s locally.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by hedora on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:25AM (#50440847)
Does this compose well with quantization?

Concretely, if you start with, say, a 1.5 or 4 bit quant, then run this, you get something the size of a 0.5 - 1.5 bits without further degradation in model behavior?

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:28AM (#50440893)
No, you require BF16 model weights for this quantization to work. If you do run it on 4bit or 1.5bit, it will degrade the model and it will hallucinate a lot.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by hedora on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:13AM (#50441545)
So, I should think of this as "5.3bit quantization is now roughly lossless"?

(Ignoring all the math, which I have not looked at yet.)

How does it compare to things like unsloth's work, or the ternary quants that are starting to become possible?

Also does it work well with mixture of experts models? Those tend to be hit harder by quantization artifacts than most because the parts that decide which expert to run can't tolerate error well. (5.3 bits ~ lossless on an MoE pushes the compression frontier for things like Qwen Flash Next, I think.)

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by tor0ugh on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:31AM (#50440939)
This reads like it. Given that consumer hardware is essentially capped at a certain amount (lets say 24GB for coupled mid range GPUs), this would at best triple either the ‚intelligence‘ (meaning non-degradation of heavy quantization) or the speed of locally running LLMs. There has to be a catch, this sounds too good to be true.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by velox on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:28AM (#50440887)
I have not read the whole thing, but I'm not sure I understand the benefit of this vs. using an existing e.g. 4 bit quant of the model in question
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by anushka_gandhi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:31AM (#50440927)
For 4bit, it takes you 5-10 minutes to compress a model. With this, you can do that in seconds. You do not have to worry about tokenizer configuration or anything. Just one-click compress and run.

This is our first version and yes, it will have some errors that will be fixed in the upcoming versions.

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by antiloper on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:28AM (#50440898)
Yeah sure I could also quantize Qwen 3.8 27B to 0.15 bits/param. Not sure what the point of this exercise is.
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by Aurornis on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:29AM (#50440905)
If you couldn’t tell, this is LLM generated quackery.

Any claims about throwing away 2/3rds of the model and maintaining “near lossless” quality are simply false.

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by goodmythical on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:44AM (#50441107)
Would be interesting if one could verify any of these claims via the reputation of any of the research participants.

As it stands, everything credits "NeuraCryption Private Limited" which was registered very recently [0][1][2] to an adress that is shared by several other recently registered businesses [scroll down on 0], and this is their very first offering according to the zenodo link they provided [3]

Further, looking at the code, it appears to be a standard quanitizer...

Like...there is no existing method by which one could genuinely compress a tens of GB weights file in to a third the space using only 50mb of RAM.

[0]https://www.zaubacorp.com/NEURACRYPTION-PRIVATE-LIMITED-U620...

[1]https://www.registerkaro.in/company/neuracryption-private-li...

[2]https://www.falconebiz.com/company/NEURACRYPTION-PRIVATE-LIM...

[3]https://zenodo.org/search?q=metadata.creators.person_or_org....

Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by tmule on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:00PM (#50443791)
I’ll probably get downvoted but the site is AI slop filled with math and issues that I guarantee the OP does not understand (based on, for example, the OP claiming a trillion parameter model can be compressed to be under 50 MB with near lossless performance).
Re:Compress any LLM 3x in one click,near-lossless,in under 5... by Roark66 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:35AM (#50441854)
Hmm, this claims "functionally lossless" compression over 3x. But where is the starting point? Bf16 of fp16? If so, how much better is it than current quantization techniques?

This should be tested on a medium size dense model. For example Qwen3.8-27B. How much better is it t than quantization to 4.5 bits?