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Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by emptybits on Monday November 09, 2026 @04:57PM (#50432837)
I have been out of this industry annd without stake in it for years. But I co-founded PayByPhone, the original pay-for-parking app. TFA suggests that it’s charging $0 in fees. Is this true?

Then aside from theories of corrupt decision making, why wouldn’t every city or parking provider choose the $0 option? (Particularly city governments with a responsibility to their residents.)

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by praxulus on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:08PM (#50432958)
The option that's fee-free to users probably costs more for the city, whereas the ones that charge a fee will probably be cheaper or even free for the city.

A city council member trying to balance a budget isn't engaging in corruption by choosing the option that reduces an expense in the city budget, even if it just places the cost on the people paying for parking instead. Constituents would be more likely to complain about higher property taxes or cuts to city services than to complain about a fee like this.

Maybe they just got bribed, but that seems less likely.

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by andreimackenzie on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:20PM (#50433089)
PayByPhone also shows ads in the parking experience (thankfully, not too obtrusively, and not until the parking is confirmed). So, they could be covering some of the cost that way.
Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by blackoil on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:09AM (#50439181)
That looks like an opportunity for an "ad-free" pro subscription.
Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by unrented7977 on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:56PM (#50435524)
> A city council member trying to balance a budget isn't engaging in corruption by choosing the option that reduces an expense in the city budget, even if it just places the cost on the people

Sounds like a pretty solid definition of corruption to me. Siphon private individuals' money into a corporation instead of using public money to offer public services.

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by praxulus on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:34PM (#50435747)
The problem with using an expansive definition like this is that doing so desensitizes people to the kind of corruption where politicians literally just accept money or valuables in exchange for misusing their power. I.e. "All politicians are corrupt, so who cares if he takes bribes? At least he agrees with me on X/Y/Z."

The key difference is that the politician is not being personally enriched by saving money in the city budget this way.

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by asdff on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:08PM (#50432962)
For some stuff e.g. third party managed golf booking websites, they charge the golf course "no fees" per booking, but they get 100% of the revenue from 1 or 2 bookings per day, whatever the exact terms.
Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by fultonn on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:10PM (#50432972)
> responsibility to their residents

I've lived in a lot of places.

In most places electeds usually have some conception of a sort of broadly construed responsibility is to residents.

But in larger cities it's a responsibility to voters and voting blocs, not residents per se. And this is particularly true in older east coast cities.

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by MaintenanceMode on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:10PM (#50433675)
Living in Washington and yes, there are zero fees in the cities listed (and others). Great app, thank you for making it, it makes life a lot easier for me and the city!
Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by dghlsakjg on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:22PM (#50435676)
Up here in BC PayByPhone used to charge the same rates as meters. Now, most cities have taken out the meter and PayByPhone charges a per transaction fee.

Dinner running long and you need 10 more minutes? That’s .25 for parking and .35 for the app.

I think Vancouver used to batch at the end of the day (I would only see one transaction for all sessions in a day) eat the transaction fee, and paid a flat yearly rate to PayByPhone for managing it. The new contract - signed after meters disappeared- added the fees.

It pisses me off to no end that if I try to do the right thing and pay for a quick few minutes to run in somewhere I get whacked with a transaction fee that costs more than parking.

Re:Parking-app convenience fees in 312 U.S. cities (median $... by emptybits on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:20AM (#50440765)
There is no transaction fee (or "convenience fee") in Vancouver. "Like PayByPhone, there are no added fees for using HotSpot to pay for parking."[1] (2026)

It definitely happens in some cities and with private operators. It shouldn't and there used to be a strong reason why. When we were still rolling PayByPhone out to as many cities as we could, the argument was strong (and often accepted by the city) that by having no additional app usage fees the city would see more rapid adoption of the service by users. That was everyone's goal because a reduced need for meter coverage in busy areas, for new meters in new areas, and reduced physical wear and tear and vandalism and theft, the cheaper the city's operating and capital costs are. Those costs are real.

As the radius of paid parking expands in a metro area, and it always does, it's an enormous cost saving for cities (read: taxpayers) to see it happen with apps and not hardware on streets. The maintenance contracts of meter manufacturers is truly a racket. The city will pay millions up front for a neighbourhood of meters and then pay hundreds of thousands per year for the maintenance contract. Forever. That sort of nonsense is buried in parking rates.

So yeah, IMO, transaction fees are mostly bullshit. Apps help keep capital and operating costs low. They're ahead of the game by ditching street hardware and eating the very small transaction costs (their merchant accounts are typically low cost because of the sheer volume they push through).

[1] https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/mobile-option-pay-for-str...