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Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by iknownthing on Monday November 09, 2026 @04:55PM (#50432815)
I'd rather a model be super expensive and cure cancer than not exist at all
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by platinumrad on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:06PM (#50432931)
This would be a much more insightful comment if the model actually cured cancer.
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by iknownthing on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:14PM (#50433025)
Seriously though, does every model have to be affordable? Can't there be a model analogue of a rolex/ferrari?
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by lionkor on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:45PM (#50434025)
Impractical and expensive for show? Are you equating a high price tag with usefulness?
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by iknownthing on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:20PM (#50434396)
Yes I would like an impractical and expensive for show model
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by taneq on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:07PM (#50434267)
I’d liken the expensive models to the early mainframes, or the first colour TV cameras. Sometimes it’s worth paying a fortune for the best thing available even if (compared with what’s to come) it’s not very good yet.
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:44PM (#50433357)
Whoever eventually "cures cancer" will be using an AI model heavily.
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:34PM (#50433916)
There have been many incredible breakthroughs in cancer in recent years without it. If the AI money had gone into that, I suspect we'd have better results.

AI seems more likely to help with detecting cancer than curing it imo.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:44PM (#50434020)
There have been many incredible breakthroughs in cancer in recent years without it.

There have also been many incredible breakthroughs in math in recent years without AI. But things are different now.

If the AI money had gone into that, I suspect we'd have better results.

Otherwise known as "eating your seed corn."

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:04PM (#50434248)
What's it achieved so far?

Compared to other new technology, like, say mRNA vaccines.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:47PM (#50435057)
Useful AI is like 2 years old at this point. Chill out.

What have you done to cure cancer or prove the Riemann conjecture, anyway?

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @04:59AM (#50438133)
"Things are different now" you said.

They must have shown some direction in that area. After all, they've been claiming AGI for ages, are desperate for more investment, and the public don't want their data centres. They could do with some promising signs in something everyone wants.

I haven't done anything of note, but I can still spot mistakes in Fable 5.2 output, which suggests that it may not quite be the magic do-everything technology you have been sold on.

You aren't going to solve cancer with brute force, no matter how much you believe in Sam Altman.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:47PM (#50444460)
After all, they've been claiming AGI for ages

Let's drill down on this point, since it's the one you chose to preface your argument with. Who, exactly, has been "claiming AGI," whether "for ages" or otherwise? Cite your sources.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:58PM (#50444618)
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:12PM (#50444823)
Explain exactly how Altman's claim that they are "on the cusp of AGI" satisfies your statement that an unspecified "they" have been "claiming AGI for ages."
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:59PM (#50447515)
The "they" is mostly OpenAI. Sam Altman, and several credulous boosters quoting him, have been talking about it being close since GPT4.

You said "or otherwise", and Sam's claim in the post I linked to is that it will be here some time in the next 54 days. You looking forward to that?

I'll happily retract that point you cherry picked if you want, as admittedly it looks like "AGI is just round the corner" has been the claim, rather than it is already here.

You can now show your evidence that the AI companies are actively working on positive things for society like curing cancer, which you are so sure is happening soon that you think funding any other technology in that area is a waste of money. They must be getting pretty far with that, huh?

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:25PM (#50448256)
Useful AI is like 2 years old at this point. Chill out.

What have you done to cure cancer or prove the Riemann conjecture, anyway? Oh, wait, you answered that one already. Guess we're done here.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by rico735 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @05:29AM (#50451785)
Two logical fallacies (one a repeat) and "we're done". I'll take it that you incredible statement had no evidence, then.

You do know that if there was any evidence that the AI companies planned to be a public service instead of a tool for technofeudalism, people might agree with you that it's a good thing.

AI has also done nothing to cure cancer, and the maths proofs it brute force had little use to mathematicians without the required context.

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by lionkor on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:44PM (#50434015)
And will also be drinking coffee, and using a computer, text editor, browser, search engine, etc., surely we don't start attributing accomplishments to the tools used?
Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by CamperBob2 on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:49PM (#50434069)
Does that really sound like a good-faith argument to you?

Really?

Re:November 2026 Claude Fable 5.2 Scores 65 on Artificial An... by scld on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:14PM (#50434808)
....yes? Some of those have absolutely been attributed to accomplishments in the past and the present. It's fairly trivial to find examples of acknowledgements in research papers thanking donated equipment and computer use, among other things. If those things weren't important, they wouldn't have been mentioned.