Uniquely among models I've tried, Luna 6 is infuriatingly lazy. As if it expects me to do the work, unaware that it is a tool.

Give Terra 6.1 Low a spin in places where you'd have previously used Luna Max. Costs seem similar, due to Terra being much smarter: thus requiring far fewer tokens per task.

Looking solely at AA's intelligence index, recognizing the pitfalls with using that as a measure- Luna 6 Max > Terra 6.1 Low is 51.3% cheaper, 94.1% less output tokens, for 1.56 higher index score.

I use Luna xhigh for when I use it, Luna Max spends 40+ minutes overthinking. I've also found that Terra below xhigh will just flat out not do what it is told.

Yea, this problem is really clear when you look at output tokens for xhigh vs max. I think the jump in capability from Luna xhigh to terra low is really sold by this. I would say that this is just the nature of being post Terra 6.1, pre-luna 6.1

What is your feel re. Terra vs. Sol?

They're both great- but I feel like for folks like me that are working on company's pseudo-infinite token budget, it's really a bimodal game. Im either reaching for the best cheapest for fanned out benchmark runs, or the fastest best for everything else. 6.1 Sol ultrafast is the latter for me, so Terra doesn't really compete with it. Terra has certainly replaced 6 Luna for me, however.

(And yes Astra is a thing, but if im considering Astra, im usually opting for an Anthropic model, 90% of the time.)

Appreciate it!

> Costs seem similar

They weren't, unfortunately, every time I tried. Just an anecdote, of course.

My experience was the same. It is practically five to ten times more expensive than deepseek or luna.

The artificial analysis graph is not very accurate.

I can second your numbers too.

Im surprised, when I've worked through benchmarking things I've run into comparable costs for Luna Max vs Terra Low. Also anecdotal from me, of course.

Tbf, I would take Luna 6 baked to silicon. It is that good. I would also take kimi k3 baked to silicon.

These are both models that I could see using on a long horizon.

> Imagine saying this about anything else

Javascript frameworks, circa 2016 ;)

> I've been hoping for Luna 6.1/2 as the next model release for a few days now.

Same. It became my workhorse after the 5.6 price drop. Still so, although it's showing its age, as you said.