News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by tjwds on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:58PM (#50417172)
> Quietly Rejecting Email

> The sender gets a bounce

?

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by Aachen on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:14PM (#50417314)
My first thought as well: how does one quietly reject email? Skimmed the comments and clearly it's not quietly. Saved a click...

It's quiet only if the server accepts it and then deletes it on their end, but if your mail provider shreds your mail that's then also your provider's responsibility and not the sender's

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by dboreham on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:32PM (#50419403)
Replying to all inbound messages with a bounce is an old idea. The theory was that legitimate senders would validate their address and get added to a white list. The scheme didn't work for the same reason captchas don't work.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by Aachen on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:39AM (#50423772)
Maybe an old idea and you can feel about it however you want, but it's still in universal use right? So it's not quiet or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by kevincox on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:46AM (#50424283)
Lots of big email services do quietly reject mail. They successfully accept it but then throw it away (sometimes not even in the spam folder for particularly high span scores).
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by Aachen on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:12AM (#50426753)
That's their issue. Don't be a customer at such an email provider :shrug:

I had a legal dispute once where a shop didn't provide warranty on a product. They took the product in but then it was indefinitely in repair. Long story short, it ended up being helpful that I have email server logs that show every transaction, so that I could say "on date+time the email was delivered to IP address X, which was registered as the mail exchanger for your domain, and your server took the email with status code XYZ Queued <ID> For Delivery." I got the money back after that

Afaik that's not what Microsoft/Hotmail does though: since it rejects, you get a delivery failure notification

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by 6031769 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:54AM (#50438535)
That's not a rejection then, it's a discard. Terminology matters.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by kevincox on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @06:08AM (#50438646)
Sure "silent rejection" == "discard"
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by cowlevel on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:48AM (#50421533)
"quietly" is a sign that an LLM wrote it