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Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by rudedogg on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:11AM (#50410574)
Is using Codex through Pi allowed? I've been a Claude user, but a lot of the things mentioned bother me as well. I see it constantly make mistakes due to (simple) shell aliases, etc..

Not sure I'll actually switch but I'm curious. I've thought about trying to build my own harness and use Codex usage to work through it without spending a fortune on credits.

Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by sigttou on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:22AM (#50410628)
Yes, it is allowed and supported normally by pi and others.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by suoloordi on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:23AM (#50410631)
Yes, you can use your Codex subscription with Pi without any limitations. It supports Codex out of the box. You may need to install extensions for things like tracking usage and limit resets though. Pi only provides basic Codex integration.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by alexhans on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:28AM (#50410662)
Yes. You can and it's easy to test. I'd also encourage you to try local models with it as well.

Pi/opencode apparently make 10% already of all traffic already:

https://manifest.build/blog/chatgpt-plus-tokens-third-party-...

Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by judge2020 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:31AM (#50410676)
Anthropic's subscription is the one that has historically been tough to use with other harnesses, where they have (had?) technical safeguards to ensure your subscription usage was limited to Claude Code CLI, with third party harnesses often implementing workarounds or faking it to use your Claude.ai subscription. Nowadays Jetbrains Air does officially allow using your Claude.ai subscription.

But OpenAI's subscription has seemingly always been available to use in other harnesses without trouble.

Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by godelski on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:35AM (#50410696)
Yes and no. Any harness can use the subscription but must go through `claude -p` mode, which is more limited.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by what on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:20AM (#50410891)
Why do you need to use claude to use a codex subscription with pi?
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by qwerpy on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:26AM (#50410906)
He assumed the original commenter meant claude, because Anthropic's the only provider that imposes the strict limitations on subscription use.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by nsingh2 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:05AM (#50410832)
This, IMO, is one big selling point of Codex for me. They seem to be much more accepting of usage outside of the Codex harness.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by PufPufPuf on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:29AM (#50410923)
Using your subscription in 3rd party tools is explicitly allowed for Codex, and disallowed but not really enforced for Claude. There are extensions for Pi that allow you to log in with your Claude credentials, Codex is iirc even built-in.
Re:Goodbye Claude, Hello Pi by anewhnaccount2 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:36AM (#50410952)
There is no stick unlike Anthropic (along with insisting on signing commits and "don't abuse the robot" the reason I started to use OpenAI instead of Anthropic --- not that I am under the illusion they are any less evil overall) but I think now there is starting to be a carrot towards Codex usage since there sessions are "cached forever". I assume if you use Pi you get 12 hours of cache instead.