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Re:The End of AI Frontiers by tensor on Saturday November 07, 2026 @06:30PM (#50409046)
Odd. As u see it he was one of the few right about everything. This is also taking his comments about transformers scaling out of context. He specifically said they won’t lead to human level ai and they haven’t, despite exhausting the training data.

AGI will require architecture changes not simply more data.

Re:The End of AI Frontiers by mr_roboto on Saturday November 07, 2026 @07:59PM (#50409565)
I'm quite confused by what you mean human level AI here. Maybe we haven't hit Einstein but we blew past the average person a long time ago.
Re:The End of AI Frontiers by haltingproblem on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:50PM (#50409805)
It is very jagged and some people don't consider that human level AGI - it can solve Maths at the genius level just like Deep Blue could play chess at the grandmaster level. At this point it is simply an opinion and I can see the other side too.
Re:The End of AI Frontiers by Exoristos on Saturday November 07, 2026 @09:02PM (#50409853)
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Re:The End of AI Frontiers by procone on Saturday November 07, 2026 @09:07PM (#50409881)
Sorry, but what? We haven't done anything beyond strapping a large language model to a "harness".

At no point do I ever confuse a human being with a Claude session.

Even if I'm somehow fooled or confused for a minute, the context window / hallucinations / Claudeish will immediately give it away.

Sure, we passed the turing test for chatbots but we are very far away from AGI.

Re:The End of AI Frontiers by paganel on Sunday November 08, 2026 @02:58AM (#50411275)
> but we blew past the average person a long time ago.

We did?

Re:The End of AI Frontiers by godelski on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:05AM (#50410834)

  > This is also taking his comments about transformers scaling out of context
There have been significant improvements in architectural changes, but since "pre-training" isn't being openly published people just lazily attribute it to "scale". Scale of what? Scale

  > AGI will require architecture changes not simply more data.
As Sutton claimed, all along[0]

[0] He speaks about Bitter Lesson directly at 9:57 but the earlier part gives better context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21EYKqUsPfg