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Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by cromka on Saturday November 07, 2026 @04:14AM (#50402945)
Yes, read that blog entry to understand how different that hardware is from any other Linux-supported ARM stuff to see how much deep understanding you need to actually bring that support upstream to Linux or Mesa. Some(most?) stuff requires fundamental changes and no LLM is going to design and write it.

Debugging is not an issue, they seem to have it figured out. It's the design that takes time.

Meanwhile Omarchy, for example, just brute-forces everything, with patches that work today but cannot be mainstreamed, so they'll break tomorrow with new kernel release. I really expect them to start struggling a lot going forward with maintaining the support they claim.

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by KetoManx64 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:57AM (#50406031)
You must not work with AI tools very much. The brute force approach as a first/second pass is very standard when doing reverse engineering with AI. You get the functionality figured out and get the basics working and then you just iterate on that and massage it into what you need it to be. Omarchy has practically unlimited tokens and every other week there is a new model being released that is more captable than the previous that will just massage things into place with each iteration.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by bigyabai on Saturday November 07, 2026 @05:53PM (#50408807)
> Omarchy has practically unlimited tokens

And yet they have a total of zero upstreamed PRs, and haven't fixed enormous and glaring issues like PSCI control either.

It's almost as if the parent is correct, and Apple's ARM architecture isn't standardized enough for ordinary models to blindly reverse-engineer with normal data. If tokens were the only constraint on supporting Apple Silicon, we'd have reversed the entire SOC device tree years ago. Alas:

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by KetoManx64 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @06:43PM (#50409123)
> And yet they have a total of zero upstreamed PRs, and haven't fixed enormous and glaring issues like PSCI control either.

Why should I care about if they upstream their patches or not? I have a working M3 macbook that runs Omarchy, why do I care that it's in the mainline Linux kernel? My GrapheneOS phone doesn't run mainstream Linux kernel, but it does the job that I need it to do.

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by cromka on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:05PM (#50409590)
Just read other people explaining this in this thread.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by tw1984 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @07:11PM (#50409303)
upstreamed PR means nothing in 2026. I couldn't care less when some maintainer are just so political, still remember the rust in kernel drama a couple of years ago? why great work have to get approvals from those people?
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by cromka on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:04PM (#50409587)
Sure, let's see how the hardware you enjoy in November behaves in March after they upgrade the kernel ot 7.5.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by orangecat on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:36PM (#50415773)
If an LLM can write working code in the first place, it can almost certainly port it to an updated kernel. I first got my M4 Pro running Linux under 7.2, and moving to 7.3 took Claude about 15 minutes.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by bigyabai on Sunday November 08, 2026 @02:24PM (#50416205)
Upstreamed PRs are the only thing people run. You can whine, sling ad-hominem at maintainers and recompile a custom kernel for every minor version bump, but nobody else is going to. If you don't go through the upstream, your code is never being run at-scale.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by saagarjha on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:44PM (#50410479)
I work on reverse engineering tools and previously trained models, and no, this is not correct.