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Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by bluegatty on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:54PM (#50400547)
Both of those orchestrations will work for sure.

Smart agent to orchestrate cheaper agents for labour.

Dumber agents to be very explicit about asking smarter agents for requests that require deep information.

This is a thing - the SOTA models really light up the more information you can provide them, and humans are too lazy / incapable of doing that in every prompt.

Entirely depends on what you are trying to do.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by seemaze on Friday November 06, 2026 @10:18PM (#50401304)
>you can also use a smart agent to ask another smart agent

What's the best method to have a 'smart' agent just.. ask itslef?

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by bluegatty on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:07AM (#50402088)
Just ask. The agents already know how. To boost it, have it read the exact docs that OAI/Anthropic provide.

Asking Claude to make prompts is like a Math teacher stuck working at a cafe about Math problem, the just light up.

They are very good at at it.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by dimava on Saturday November 07, 2026 @04:53AM (#50403118)
Generally, you want a different smart agent as they have different strong sides (e.g. call Sol for a review from Opus)

You may use https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code as a wrapper above claide/codex/pi/... harnesses, or a proxy below (forgot which one, as agent what theo uses for balancing multiple claude subs)

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by brabel on Saturday November 07, 2026 @07:07AM (#50403835)
I highly doubt that claim, has it been tested rigorously? I understand mixing different models to save money and time by using cheaper and faster models for certain tasks. But different models just to increase accuracy seems implausible.
Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by bluegatty on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:27PM (#50407245)
Mixing models almost assuredly does increase accuracy in many cases - I do it all day every day and I can only say from experience though not true objective benchmarks.

I use codex/claude code all day every day and built an MCP that allow them to use each other as sub-agents.

I will not allow claude code to touch my code with any design changes without codex auditing it, and visa versa.

I believe this is the case merely because they are different models that will provide varied perspectives, and smart enough to identify issues on each other's work.

I'm not sure if there's research to back this up but I think it's fairly obvious, and also FYI diminishing marginal return - I'm not sure if a '3rd perspective' would be worth it in most cases.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by brabel on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:04AM (#50411305)
It’s not obvious and I can tell you my experience is the opposite. That is why research is needed, your anecdote does not move the field one inch one way or another.
Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by neal_jones on Saturday November 07, 2026 @04:10PM (#50408096)
Something I’ve added is a step where the agent asks itself how confident it is in the solution/implementation - if it isn’t “High” it then has to ask a smarter agent to review.

Not sure it’s the best approach but it has improved results.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by fireant on Saturday November 07, 2026 @04:38AM (#50403062)
Doesn't that muddle intent of the original prompt? If the smarter model didn't understand your intent correctly, the dumber one sure won't and it rephrasing and expanding the prompt will just amplify it's misunderstanding, no?
Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by bluegatty on Saturday November 07, 2026 @06:29AM (#50403603)
You wouldnt normally use a dumb model as a personal agent to get a smarter model to do work, but you may make use of that mechanism in some kind of automation process.

But there are definitely cases.

GPT Pro is an absolutely spectacular model, that almost cannot be used without 'prompt help'. Or rather, it can only be effectively leveraged by very intricate prompting, which requires the help of another agent.

I typically use Claude Code to write prompts for GPT Pro , and cut and paste the prompt in, and let GPT Pro work for 20 minutes, then take the response back to Claude Code and work with Opus to consider the results.

Opus is 'dumber' (nominally) then GPT Pro.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by agentdev001 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:30AM (#50405841)
What is GPT Pro?
Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by bluegatty on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:21PM (#50407200)
GPT Pro is the pro setting on OAI's consume chat model. It is only available online or API.

It's branded as a separate model, but really it's like an 'ultrathinking' mode of OAI's model.

The details are not public but it's parallel test time compute and multi search, aka the model reasons along different vectors and compares answers.

If 'feels like' a smarter model, even though I'm pretty sure it's a synthetic variation of Astra.

It is by far the 'smartest model' if you were to benchmark it, and many of OAIs released were based on this.

There are few or no benchmark scores on it because it's not suitable for harness testing or coding, it's almost designed to be 'one shot' or 'few shot'.

It takes 8-25 to answer, and if you give it a sufficiently sophisticated prompt, it will think for 1 hour.

It requires OAI's 'pro' account aka the $200/month one.

It's the best open secret in AI, I can't recommend it enough.

Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by agentdev001 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @03:30PM (#50407769)
Oh wow, as someone who prides themselves on my depth of knowledge on the OpenAI docs, im ashamed I didn't know about this! I figured that Pro was a deprecated feature post 5.6 family release. Didn't realize Mode:Pro was something you could do with 6 and 6.1, thanks!
Re:A Jev that can ask Opus for help gives Opus accuracy at 4... by pletnes on Saturday November 07, 2026 @09:06AM (#50404647)
It could make sense to use a cheap model to decide if you need to run a long, high effort or otherwise costly effort. Then you can take many decisions at low cost, but think hard when it’s time to make an important decision.