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Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by talon8635 on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:39PM (#50395585)
Would Chomsky have the name recognition and standing he has, or any at all, without his extracurricular political beliefs?
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by NaiveEmpiricist on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:03PM (#50396803)
For decades, Chomsky was the most-cited author who still had a pulse. And a lot of that was for his political writing - maybe 2/3rds? But he still has a lot of cites for his intellectual work, in several different fields.

Linguistics, obviously.

Philosophers love him, because he always gives them an argument, and that's all they really care about.

There probably wouldn't even be cognitive science without Chomsky. And psychology is still responding to Chomsky's nuking of behaviorism in the 1950's.

So, there's a lot there, but admittedly most of it is for politics.

Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by suddenlybananas on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:11PM (#50397735)
Not with laypeople, but among cognitive scientists, absolutely.
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by kenferry on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:26PM (#50398745)
I mean, his linguistic work was a very, very big deal
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by adamddev1 on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:05PM (#50399714)
Every introductory book in theoretical computer science will have a discussion of the Chomsky language hierarchy. It is hugely insightful and helpful.
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by jancsika on Saturday November 07, 2026 @12:45AM (#50401990)
Without question.

Just look at his Wikipedia entry. He finished his dissertation in 1955, starting teaching at MIT the same year, and continued to publish seminal linguistic works over the next 12 years. That's all before he gained any notoriety whatsoever as a critic of the U.S.'s role in the Vietnam War.

Manufacturing Consent was published in 1988!

Additionally, I strongly doubt Chomsky had any "name recognition" all the way through to the late 90s. Outside of a single episode of Firing Line, where would the general public have heard his views?

Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by jibalt on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:15PM (#50406685)
Chomsky was a prominent critic of the U.S. invasion of Vietnam and of intellectuals who abdicated their responsibility -- nearly everyone attending universities in the late 1960's knew of him.

That said, as a computer science student I learned of his hierarchy of formal languages before I learned of his politics.

Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by talon8635 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @05:55PM (#50408818)
Was Manufacturing Consent about his professional linguistic research, or extracurricular politics?
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by high_5 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:21AM (#50402401)
Yup, no regular expressions without his theory.
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by crab2 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @10:22AM (#50405317)
False, we owe them to Kleene, 1956.

A formal theory of finite automatons, both determinitic and non-determinitics, is due to Michael Rabin & Dana Scott, for which they received a Turing prize. 1959.

Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by jibalt on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:17PM (#50406702)
grep was written by people who knew about regular languages and the Kleene star via Chomsky and via BNF used to describe Algol's syntax.
Re:Chomsky and the Two Cultures of Statistical Learning by jibalt on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:10PM (#50406657)
I was a computer science student and an anti-war activist while at UCLA in the late 1960's. I learned of Chomsky's hierarchy of formal languages before I learned of his politics.

No offense but your question is terribly ignorant, naive, and biased. Just spend a few seconds reading his Wikipedia article.