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Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by probably_wrong on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:14AM (#50390008)
That theory rests on the assumption that your salary is based on how good you are at your job. But if that were the case then corporate life wouldn't be full of people complaining "my boss is an idiot and yet (s)he makes ten times what I do".

I'll argue that money goes to those who are best at internal politics, with perhaps a moderate correlation with work performance.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by blitzar on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:42AM (#50390257)
> perhaps a moderate correlation with work performance

The only time I have seen a correlation greater than 0 is where bonuses where directly linked to earnings or sales ... even then the correlation was not 1

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by jjav on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:10AM (#50390448)
> The only time I have seen a correlation greater than 0 is where bonuses where directly linked to earnings or sales

Maybe I've been lucky to work for moderately reasonable companies, but I've never seen that.

For example in my current company, yearly raises are directly tied to performance rating. And while there is subjectivity in the rating, it is basically impossible to squeeze in a high performer rating for someone who doesn't do anything even if I wanted to (which I don't). It is also impossible to give a very low rating to someone that all peers see doing great work.

The correlation will never be a perfect 1.0, but it is closer to 1 than to 0. Low performers end up getting low to nothing in raises, and the high performers get a multiplier that increases their raises.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by munksbeer on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:57AM (#50392350)
> It is also impossible to give a very low rating to someone that all peers see doing great work.

I work at a smaller company now, with a lot of very good people, so I've been happy enough with my rating and bumps.

When I was at "bigcorp", I was still as good at my job, but I didn't play the game very well. I presume I was not visible enough to be rated highly by my peers (peers aren't those in your team, but outside your team) and so I didn't see the rate of progression I think I merited, and eventually left.

That was a very good decision.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by jjav on Friday November 06, 2026 @11:58PM (#50401762)
> so I didn't see the rate of progression I think I merited

Well yes, that's common. But I was responding to the idea that there is literally 0 correlation between performance and raises.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by pembrook on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:45AM (#50390270)
I'm pro salary transparency, but both things are true and OP should not be downvoted:

- Some employee salary discrepancies are inefficiencies due to humans sucking at rationally evaluating other people

- Some employee salary discrepancies are legitimate outcomes of value produced relative to other employees

The problem is the more we create policy assuming the first one is true, we eliminate everyone in the second category (however small or large that category), making the economy less efficient. I would argue pay transparency isn't one of those policies however, and in fact would lead to more efficiencies.

All interventions have consequences, and less growth and higher inefficiency from cutting tall poppies is indeed a risk. As someone in Europe, our total lack of productivity growth is leading to collapsing governments and social welfare systems. These are serious issues that should be discussed and not dismissed outright with downvotes.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by blitzar on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:48AM (#50390290)
The second is completely solved ... its called a bonus.
Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by pembrook on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:52AM (#50390325)
Now you've permanently handed power to employers to claim every year is "a tough year" and pay people less, while tricking people into taking jobs under the pretense of "the salary is low but you usually get a crazy big bonus!"
Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by blitzar on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:03AM (#50390403)
> Let me guess, your next rebuttal

My actual response "But then we will have to deal with biases, discretion and management collecting their 10mil bonus by giving the juniors a pittance"

The flip side of course is people who actually work in bonus heavy revenue generating roles tend to leave if they are not valued appropriately - and take their clients with them.

Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by tancop on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:09AM (#50390900)
The only policy that's needed is unions everywhere with industry wide bargaining like they do in Denmark. Or even better employee ownership.
Re:Britain to make salary disclosure in job ads mandatory by brainwad on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:36AM (#50392799)
The thing about employee ownership is that, almost by definition, employees don't have much capital (that's why they live by selling their labour) and businesses need capital to survive. That capital has a cost, either interest on loans or profits going to outside shareholders.