Most native widget toolkits don't actually support rendering into 3d canvasses very well, nor very compact UI layouts. I generally prefer native widgets, but for a dense prosumer application, they aren't always the correct choice (and you'll see even Apple stray from their native UI widgets for, say, Logic Pro)

They actually do, just not on GNU/Linux, **BSD worlds.

Apple bought Logic.

> Apple bought Logic.

A quarter-century ago, yes. If they haven't migrated to native widgets in 25 years, that might be an indicator of something

It took them close to a decade to migrate the Finder to Cocoa.

I target all platforms, and so does most other desktop software today.

Ok for linux it's GTK and Qt. What's native for windows in 2026? It's a complete joke of system UI.

In 2026 it’s WinUI. Microsoft has been clearer about it: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/winui/winui3

But the premise is silly: if Linux has two native toolkits, how is this a sensible recommendation?? Hint: it isn’t, because GTK/Qt are not the native, but rather simply the most used.

Also, go to Mac, and SwiftUI still doesn’t support all that AppKit used to, leaving an incentive for developers to deviate from the platform’s recommendation.

And back to Windows, WinUI still doesn’t fully replace Win32 or Windows Forms, so same conclusion applies.

> But the premise is silly: if Linux has two native toolkits, how is this a sensible recommendation?? Hint: it isn’t, because GTK/Qt are not the native, but rather simply the most used.

I’m going to hazard the claim that in most people’s conception of the term, GTK is native in GNOME, Cinnamon, Xfce, etc. and Qt is native in KDE, LXQt and Sailfish OS.

I am pretty sure HN is an enclave of the only remaining people in the world who think this way. A sanctuary preserving the last specimens of an endangered species.

None of the apps on my computer have any sort of cohesion with each other. It might just be me but I think this idea might be dead, on Windows and Linux at least.