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Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by bryanrasmussen on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:24PM (#50385359)
About half of the people in this thread are of the it is better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent suffer, which is the traditional American view, while it seems that the other half are more in Von Bismarck territory, who said “it is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape.”

so, that is interesting I guess.

https://medium.com/luminasticity/commentary-on-n-guilty-men-...

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by popkkksidhd on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:58PM (#50385737)
Well, when a lot of crime is committed by repeat offenders it’s going to change how you view these things. If we were a lower crime society things would be different.

Letting the guilty live is mercy without justice. Society is bearing the cost of one who would see innocent dead. Simply saying “death penalty bad” is cruelty to law abiding members of society, and that will quickly lead to chaos.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by scarecrowbob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:13PM (#50387718)
My position is that if we'd like to lower recidivism then treating prisoners poorly is a very bad idea.

Society is bearing the cost (in repeat offending) of treating everyone who goes to prison as a person incapable of acting pro-socially.

It's not just that the death penalty is cruel (though I believe that it is), its that much of the carcerial state is there to do everything possible to make it hard to do anything other than remain a criminal once a person has been to prison.

From my position, much of the cruelty and retribution against criminals (ranging from poor conditions to bad healthcare to lack of post-incarceration support) just increases recidivism and that a real problem for all of us:

cruelty in the name of retribution is the real sacrifice of the good of the whole.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by JKCalhoun on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:07PM (#50385833)
Is anyone suggesting we let people free?

I thought it was just about not killing people. They're still prisoners.