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Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by nazgulsenpai on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:55PM (#50384352)
Even knowing the crimes that would lead one to be given a death sentence? What about the victims and their families?
Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by cocoalba on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:17PM (#50384576)
The crimes are horrific and the victims families want revenge, that’s what life prison sentences are for. Fundamentally, the state should not be an arbiter of life and death.
Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by lnkdinsuxs on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:49PM (#50384946)
> Fundamentally, the state should not be an arbiter of life and death

In the U.S. the state has never been an arbiter of life and death. A jury of peers decide that.

In a state where we struggle to house people, home prices are exploding through the roof, who bears the costs to hold those prisoners for the rest of their lives? to feed them, to provide them a habitable bed, cleaning supplies, medical health as they age and start to need increasingly more care?

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by mftrhu on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:53PM (#50384999)
The taxpayers. Same as they ever did, because sentencing someone to death doesn't mean they just die - they appeal, and appeal, and appeal again, and they should be able to do so because their own death is on the line, sometimes on shaky ground.

> The decision to spare death row inmates is largely symbolic in a state that has not executed an inmate since 2006, though experts say it could save millions of dollars in court costs each year. Only 13 inmates have been executed since voters reinstated the death penalty in 1978.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by saxonww on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:23PM (#50385347)
I'm for keeping capital punishment as an option, but it's clear to me that adjudicating it does cost more than life w/o parole.

Virtually all cases involving death penalty have a jury trial, higher stakes == higher priced lawyers, there are built-in automatic appeals, there are actually two separate trials for guilt and application of death penalty vs. one trial with a sentencing phase, etc.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by consumer451 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:57PM (#50385047)
"it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape, than that one innocent Person should suffer." – Benjamin Franklin

That's a founding father of the USA, talking about imprisonment. When you extend that to state-sanctioned execution... capital punishment makes no sense as it cannot be undone.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by franktankbank on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:16AM (#50391957)
Didn't Benjamin Franklin bang chickens? I'm not going to take advice from that kite flyer.
Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by privong on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:59PM (#50385076)
> In the U.S. the state has never been an arbiter of life and death. A jury of peers decide that.

In at least some US states, the jury decides guilt/innocence but the judge determines the sentences for guilty verdicts. So in those cases the jury of peers is certainly not being the arbiter of life and death.

Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by 0cf8612b2e1e on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:31PM (#50385426)
When I served on a jury (minor drug charge), the judge explicitly told us not to think of sentencing and only to determine innocent or guilty.
Re:California Gov Newsom commutes death sentences for all 54... by TheCoelacanth on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:18PM (#50385954)
Judges in the US have gone completely off the rails.

The constitution puts no limits on the power of a jury to acquit someone and it's absolutely despicable that judges have tried to usurp that authority under that pretext of following the rule of law.

If we want to make it harder for juries to acquit someone, then that should be written in the law; not invented by judges.