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Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by bradleybuda on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:24PM (#50374323)
What makes vape and nail shops uniquely able to afford these rents?
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by bobthepanda on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:39PM (#50374434)
They sell fairly space-efficient, expensive products or services. Generally speaking, the higher you push rent per square foot, the fewer types of businesses you can operate, because people and products take up space and have throughput limits. Nail and beauty services can get spendy fast.

The US has something similar going on with medical and dental offices for the same reasons.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by estearum on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:01AM (#50379938)
The other US phenomenon is mega-chains which can operate at much narrower margins (or even negative margins in some marquee locations).
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by bobthepanda on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:42AM (#50381295)
To be fair, that specifically is not a US phenomena. Flagship stores that operate as a loss purely for the prestige of a location have existed basically since the dawn of modern retail. Operating in Manhattan or on the Champs Elysees is a sign you are a serious grownup store.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by estearum on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:38PM (#50381928)
The flagship stores yes, but that was the special case (which is universal) of the more US-specific case of e.g. "why the fuck are there Chipotles everywhere"
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by bobthepanda on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:03PM (#50406584)
Oh i see. Yeah, the corporate structure of “landowners with a business attached” is somewhat uniquely dominant in America. Though not totally unheard of, Japanese rail companies are property developers for example with attached department store chains, etc. so that trains and property drive foot traffic to each other.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by Tsiklon on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:54PM (#50374547)
Outgoings are different - cheap/dodgy imports, and modern slavery (nail salons are infamous for this) mean that their outgoings can be much lower than other shops. There’s also the tax avoidance many of these businesses partake in, both in the traditional cash-in-hand-business fashion, and the more modern(?) “American Candy store” way (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61777445)
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by linksnapzz on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:03PM (#50374623)
Hold On Right There.

There are people go out of their way to buy...American candy in the UK?

Utterly perverted.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by nprateem on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:07PM (#50374657)
They're some kind of tax/ business rates scam judging by how many there are.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by harvey9 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:03AM (#50376437)
Numerous reports over many years that they don't have many real customers and exist mainly to enable a tax scam / money laundering.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by hdgvhicv on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:25AM (#50376610)
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by Symbiote on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:21AM (#50376579)
(Yes, at the M&Ms shop in Leicester Square. Probably never visited by anyone from London, just tourists.)

But the "American Candy Shop" places were/are doing money laundering and/or tax fraud. They can say they sold individual candies for £0.50 (cost: 5p each), the profit goes to a shell company in the Virgin Islands etc, and before the business taxes are due the company "goes bust" and disappears. Then a new one takes its place.

4 years ago: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/04/us-swe...

This year: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/18/dodgy-shops-ha...

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by williamdclt on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:42AM (#50377188)
No, which is why it's so transparent that these are money laundering operations
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by sodastar on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:50AM (#50378488)
i mean just talking for me: american pop culture is just so omnipresent, that even from europe i know what pop tarts, gushers, mountain dew and a wendys is.

All these stores dont exist in my country, you can buy watered down mountain dew, pop tarts for 10€ per box and the local fast food chains are mcdonalds, burger king and subway with an occasional kfc and a metropol city may have a pizza hut.

Sure its all marketing, but if im paying 10€ for a delivery pizza i at least want the box to look like a domino piece.

Most of US sweets ive tried were okayish, my favorite being reeses small cups. Was disappointed by how bad cheeze-its are, they were given away in stores as the sales were so poor and started with a money back promotion and still didnt get sold. Takis seem to have found their way, also taco bell (i know its tex-mex, but still a variety from burgers) opened stores in germany and the netherlands hoping it reaches a broader audience and can get more people attracted as i actually like the food given the price point and being somewhat more healthy than a quarter pounder with cheese.

Softdrinks on the other hand really do taste better. European Gatorade is cat piss compared to US Gatorade. Mountain Dew like i said is only the base version and even this tastes watered down. Hoping for a baja blast rollout in EU with taco bell making a push here. Dr Pepper is really awful in europe compared to american dr pepper but at the end its all about personal preference. Ive seen a lot of americans loving Moser Roth Chocolate from the european Aldi which is their expensive version of good chocolate but still at a discounter price. People that love this would probably die for godiva or leonidas chocolate.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by linksnapzz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:20AM (#50379387)
>that even from europe i know what pop tarts, gushers, mountain dew and a wendys is.

I mean, I know they exist too, but that's orthogonal to wanting to eat any of it...

>Was disappointed by how bad cheeze-its are,

My experience is that Cheez-Its are more often than other chips or crackers, likely to go stale on the shelf-might have something to do with the recipe.

>also taco bell (i know its tex-mex, but still a variety from burgers) opened stores in germany and the netherlands hoping it reaches a broader audience and can get more people attracted as i actually like the food given the price point and being somewhat more healthy than a quarter pounder with cheese.

For many years in RI, Taco Bell was the only mexican place we had. Finding authentic Tex-Mex was worth a trip (as far as North Carolina) when I was in 7th grade. As for it being healthier than a QP...ymmv depending on the menu....

As for drinks...how do you screw up Gatorade & Dr Pepper? The syrup/powder just needs to be reconstituted...is it something in the water?

Also, yes, Moser Roth chocolate at Aldi is a steal, quality-wise.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by shermantanktop on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:05AM (#50378621)
I have seen more distinct candy brands/types in those shops than I ever have in the US. Plus jars of marshmallow goo called “Fluf” for some reason?
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by cucumber3732842 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:23AM (#50378794)
> Plus jars of marshmallow goo called “Fluf” for some reason?

The fudge recipe on the back is actually really good FYI

Also the containers are a nice pliable rubbery plastic so they're good to repurpose for garage use.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by linksnapzz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:01AM (#50379161)
Marshmallow Fluff is used, amongst other things, to make the traditional questionably-nutritious New England delicacy, the Fluff & Peanut-Butter Sandwich, or fluffernutter. Around the Boston area, it was used more or less like euros use nutella.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by nprateem on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:06PM (#50374650)
They're great for money laundering.

Who's to say how many clients a nail bar had? A box of fake nails is easily dumped in the bin.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by jimnotgym on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:48AM (#50375967)
Yes, one of the accounting bodies started warning a few years ago about the proliferation of barber shops being a front for money laundering.

The only way I can think to police it, would be for tax inspectors to stand outside and count the customers!

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by gambiting on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:35AM (#50376252)
In fact that's exactly what large enforcement operations against these do, the problem is that they just close down, the person who they were registered to disappears(if they ever existed at all) and another shop opens in the same place registered to someone else. It's a game of whack a mole.

It's just stupid that councils have no problem arguing that say, Clarkson(sorry, stupid example) can't open a pub in a town with no other pub or other employment opportunities, but 17th vape shop on the same street is fair game and free market.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by addandsubtract on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:57AM (#50376863)
Pubs are regulated by a limited amount of alcohol licenses, which goes back centuries. Do you really want there to be licenses for other industries as well?
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by gambiting on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:05AM (#50376917)
That's not what I said nor implied.

It's not about licences - councils can absolutely decide if a business can or can not operate in any area already, regardless of licence requirements.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by pidgeon_lover on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:54AM (#50377270)
> Do you really want there to be licenses for other industries as well?

Yes. I'm surprised that business licenses aren't already a thing.

I expect a competent government to issue licenses to barbers based off them proving hygiene standards, trained staff with college diplomas in hair-dressing, number of employees, and an extremely limited number of these to be issued based off local need calculated from population by census.

I expect local government to issue similar licenses for all other industries, who should prove their competency, adherence to standards, jobs created, and cater to local needs.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:53AM (#50380691)
I think the real problem is that if we got rid of money laundering the budget would be even more screwed.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by smelendez on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:37PM (#50375248)
Vape shops sell addictive products and they have minimal overhead. I think the markup on a lot of what they sell, especially the more grey market stuff like nitrous oxide "whip cream chargers" and poppers, is quite high.

A lot that I see have extremely cheap-looking fixtures and little to no decor, and unlike virtually any other store, they stock what they stock, which is generally the same as every other vape shop, and don't even bother to fill out the entire space if it would hold more merchandise.

I assume some are able to negotiate lower rents in exchange for short term leases while the store is technically still on the market for a long-term lease, similar to a pop up store. A lot that I've seen could be shut down, with all the merchandise and equipment loaded into a UHaul, within a few hours if necessary.

Nail salons are similar. They really should have custom ventilation systems since they're working with paints and solvents and glues and nail drills/lathes, but this seems to not be enforced since they're seen as girly little spas rather than industrial workshops and are often staffed by poor immigrants.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by specproc on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:37AM (#50375919)
They sell something that doesn't work so well online or at a supermarket. Ditto barbers, phone repair, or whatever racially-coded tabloid bugbear de jour. They work in a town centre, everything else can't beat the prices set by larger (often American-owned) businesses.

You can buy a vape online, but as a smoker, you don't want to wait a day when you've run out. Also as a smoker, I don't get why they're not regulated like tobacco. They shouldn't be sold alongside (and like) cigs. Seems very low-hanging legislative fruit.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by lelanthran on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:43AM (#50377202)
> and should otherwise be treated like cigs (e.g. on packaging, licensing, advertising etc.).

I think you don't know why cigarettes are treated the way they are.

Hint: it's not because they are addictive. After all, caffeine is addictive and both tea and coffee is effectively unregulated.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by specproc on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:26PM (#50417474)
Aye, but there's a big difference between nicotine and caffeine in terms of addiction potential, and the long-term risks of vaping aren't well understood.

They shouldn't be sold as sweets, which is very much how they're sold in the UK. Plain packaging, behind the counter, licensed. Not unreasonable I don't think.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by prmoustache on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:43AM (#50375948)
Surface area needed is much smaller than most other shops.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by asdff on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:05AM (#50376066)
They can’t. They tend to turn over like the rest. But as others noted, their low upstart costs makes them the more likely tenant out of other busines models on the sidelines seeking rent.

We all want little cutsey shops and such but how much money for that is actually sitting on the sidelines at any given time ready to pounce? Hardly any at all, if any. Nail shops and other bullshit on the other hand? There’s private equity specialized in selling shares of these schemes.