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Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by epolanski on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:56AM (#50368368)
I'm not sure what government has to do with it, it doesn't set the price of rents.

Rents do get progressively lower in distressed areas because they are distressed, and higher in high demand ones, but that's not enough when less customers are entering your shops anyway.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by throwaway85825 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:03PM (#50368470)
Government adds mountains of red tape, taxes employers to death and has reduced the spending power of the median worker to below poland through its plantation migration policy.

Commercial units sit empty instead of lowering rents because of the 'extend and pretend' in lending. The banks can't afford to revalue commercial real estate at the current market rate. It's like the 70s again.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by epolanski on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:10PM (#50368539)
What the hell are you talking about lol.

There's no design of anybody, red tape and taxes have always been there, but they are not a problem of many sectors, but commerce in particular in this period of time, and not just in Italy but globally.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by throwaway-blaze on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:57PM (#50374120)
You are right that the units sit empty because the banks have loan covenants with the landlords that minimum rent is XX, which is higher than the unit is currently worth.

It isn't so much extend and pretend, its landlord CANT lower the rent without violating their loan.

If you get government involved, this will just get more expensive. We need to wait it out until the landlord can't pay the loan anyway and is forced to sell the building at a massive loss. Then the new owner will have a new loan with a new price floor and the dance can start over.

Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by Terr_ on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:22PM (#50374313)
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Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by electroweak on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:38PM (#50374844)
This is exactly the case. On my Canadian high street the redevelopments are either empty or exclusively high cost businesses. I looked at the rent arrears notice posted on one failed shop and the rate would exclude anything not a money mill. They'll be no lutiers or second hand bookstores in the shiny towers on my street.
Re:'It's just vape, nail, charity shops': Can anything save ... by cowlevel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:32PM (#50375215)
What if you had a rental agreement where you pay $x for y% of the property but the landlord lets you use the whole thing and x/(y*0.01) > minimum rent?

Or you pay minimum rent but your landlord gives you some of it back?

Idk, there's probably room for creativity here