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Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by LarsDu88 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:50AM (#50368279)
Possible data center bans incoming + tons of GPUs sitting in warehouses due to lack of power infrastructure to power them.

Perhaps a flood of 8x B300 will be homelab ready in a few months

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by swingandamiss on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:57AM (#50368382)
No, they'll be shipped off to Asia where technology is embraced.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by DaSHacka on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:06PM (#50369281)
The rise of China due to hand-over-fist ceeding of power and influence fueled in equal parts by the right and left is so astonishing it'll certainly go down in the history books (written in Mandarin, of course).

Bonus points when the morons are doing so because they get all their political news from a Chinese platform. The [Americans] have gone insane.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by mullingitover on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:45PM (#50374024)
The rise of China is due to the tyranny of the markets and the fact that firms laser-focused on quarterly growth buy and liquidate those trying to do responsible, sustained growth. Those that sold their factories were able to swallow domestic competitors who didn’t do so.

The political system just does whatever the captains of industry tell them to do.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by NitpickLawyer on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:10PM (#50368532)
> a flood of 8x B300 will be homelab ready in a few months

Haha, that's beyond wishful thinking, I'm afraid. We're not even seeing a flood of A100s (6 yo and several generations old). Every GPU is still being squeezed right now, and the trend will probably continue for the foreseeable future.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by throwup238 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:25PM (#50368704)
Last I checked AWS still sells EC2 instances using 2018 era GPUs. Most people underestimate just how much long tail demand there is and how long these cards last, despite the higher power consumption.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by fauigerzigerk on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:56PM (#50370669)
Yes, but if data center space gets tight, it creates an incentive to replace old inefficient models with better ones, i.e. sqeueeze more performance out of limited data center space.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by thway15269037 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:24PM (#50373839)
IIRC some companies were running campaigns like "we buy your old hardware so you won't sell it in aftermarket and crash the prices". It all ends in landfill.

I wouldn't be surprised if RAM cartel or nvidia will attempt something like that, plus nvidia already talks about license-locking GPUs.

Also, again, IIRC, IBM hardware already works this way. There are almost no aftermarket when I last checked for them because it's all locked up and useless.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by largbae on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:30PM (#50373889)
Maybe, but A100s and H100s were air cooled. Space is just part of the problem.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by x187463 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:19PM (#50368638)
The world is bigger than the US. If the political climate in the US obstructs the build out, the build out will occur somewhere else.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by Drupon on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:22PM (#50368672)
>The world is bigger than the US

This is cope. It's cute that you think it's true, but it's not really much bigger than the US.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by seviu on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:16PM (#50370220)
It’s called pacing the frontier
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by fauigerzigerk on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:57PM (#50370686)
I agree, but it would have to be a place with plenty of energy and the only such place outside the US is a war zone.
Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by SR2Z on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:56PM (#50373611)
Well, lots of countries have energy surpluses from hydro or cheap coal.

It would certainly fit the pattern of Bitcoin farms clustering near dams.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by fauigerzigerk on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:33AM (#50377119)
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Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by viccis on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:21PM (#50368666)
>Possible data center bans incoming

A lot of the data center build out has been bipartisan. Unless Dems realize they need to listen to their constituents to avoid a 2028 bloodbath (they probably won't), I wouldn't count on that to save us from RAM/GPU prices.

Re:Kimi K3.1 Pro weights out by FuriouslyAdrift on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:22PM (#50370968)
There are 300 racks of nVidia A100 servers for sale from a refurber right now on eBay...