Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:22AM
(#50365196)
Despite with the 'no need for TLS, apt packages are signed' clowns would have you believe, you can usually point to a package mirror with https. This has the added advantage of preventing a mitm from knowing what packages you install or blocking selected packages.
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Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by anthk on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:25AM
(#50365227)
Every mirror will know that because of HTTPD logs.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by DaSHacka on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:53AM
(#50365531)
In fairness to GP, that wouldn't be a man in the 'middle', the mirror is the end destination for your traffic.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by InsidiousWombat on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:33AM
(#50365300)
well when CA use 4 as key that kinda matters less
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by bulbar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:33AM
(#50368024)
They usually don't.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by JamesSwift on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:19PM
(#50368641)
But sometimes do
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by bulbar on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:34AM
(#50375588)
What's the argument then? Not signing the packages anymore because that has now been faulty?
There's no sensible argument here.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by steve1977 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:50PM
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That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:14PM
(#50371621)
So you're not using internet banking any more?
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by dinosaurdynasty on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:53AM
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> preventing a mitm from knowing what packages you install
Package size is unique enough that just seeing the size of the transfer will usually be enough to tell.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c...
by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:25PM
(#50371791)
Apt uses persistent connections and has multiple requests in flight at once (Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth). If you acquired the entire history of downloads then you could match it against software updates, and possibly identify by-choice dependency sets, but it would be quite a project.