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Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:22AM (#50365196)
Despite with the 'no need for TLS, apt packages are signed' clowns would have you believe, you can usually point to a package mirror with https. This has the added advantage of preventing a mitm from knowing what packages you install or blocking selected packages.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by anthk on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:25AM (#50365227)
Every mirror will know that because of HTTPD logs.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by DaSHacka on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:53AM (#50365531)
In fairness to GP, that wouldn't be a man in the 'middle', the mirror is the end destination for your traffic.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by InsidiousWombat on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:33AM (#50365300)
well when CA use 4 as key that kinda matters less
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by bulbar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:33AM (#50368024)
They usually don't.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by JamesSwift on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:19PM (#50368641)
But sometimes do
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by bulbar on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:34AM (#50375588)
What's the argument then? Not signing the packages anymore because that has now been faulty?

There's no sensible argument here.

Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by steve1977 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:50PM (#50369075)
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:14PM (#50371621)
So you're not using internet banking any more?
Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by dinosaurdynasty on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:53AM (#50368324)
> preventing a mitm from knowing what packages you install

Package size is unique enough that just seeing the size of the transfer will usually be enough to tell.

Re:Debian apt security update: man-in-the-middle arbitrary c... by angry_octet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:25PM (#50371791)
Apt uses persistent connections and has multiple requests in flight at once (Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth). If you acquired the entire history of downloads then you could match it against software updates, and possibly identify by-choice dependency sets, but it would be quite a project.