Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by credit_guy on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:04PM
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I think you are describing quite accurately what happened in 2008, but I don't think the parallel is as strong as you claim it is.
> Downstream party D has no visibility that the specific uncertainty emanating from party A upstream is 100% correlated with their own risks
I'm not aware of anything like that happening right now. Do you have any examples?
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by franktankbank on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:19PM
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"Hidden"
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by bagacrap on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:46PM
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yeah it's approaching the point where all risk is that AI is a bubble, and everyone is exposed to it. It's not exactly hidden, and it's not easy to escape either.
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by mannanj on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:53PM
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I have an example. Greater than 90% of knowledge workers in tech now are required and expected to use AI. If they aren't, their job prospects are at high risk.
That's an exposure in the Party A-Party D frame is it not?
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:24PM
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I don't think so. If AI gets really expensive and/or proves to be useless, those requirements will go away. And it's not the knowledge workers paying for those tokens either.
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by jpardoe on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:44AM
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It doesn’t seem like it to me. Explain?
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by credit_guy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:16AM
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The parent was talking specifically about debt instruments, not about knowledge in general. He didn't mention it by name, but he was describing CDO-squared. There's nothing like that happening now, at least not yet.
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by fnord77 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:37PM
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[delayed]
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m...
by freakynit on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:40PM
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A few "hidden" tricks : https://latentstate.net/the-hidden-ledger/
This is very much like the 2008 disaster. You effectively have debt laundering happening whereby speculative income / debt is manufactured into higher grade than it is by passing through multiple parties / steps / debt-like vehicles that look independent but in fact are all built on highly correlated factors. Downstream party D has no visibility that the specific uncertainty emanating from party A upstream is 100% correlated with their own risks, along with parties B and C through which the liability passed on the way to them. What looks like independent risks are actually all the same risk and completely fragile to a single event that has quite a high probability of occurring.