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Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by j2kun on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:42PM (#50342532)
This essay seems to say, "people don't matter; all that matters is truth." And that all the policy decisions should follow from that assumed value.

Yikes. I fear for what mathematics will become if that becomes the majority viewpoint.

Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by 12312777 on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:48PM (#50342619)
The future of mathematics is outlined in this amusing quasi-satire (satire tends to become reality in Silicon Valley):

https://proofsandprompts.com/2026/10/31/lean-me-softly-a-sat...

That is literally what some tenured people are pushing for.

Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by rubikscube09 on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:42PM (#50343419)
loved reading this
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by markus_zhang on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:46PM (#50343469)
Thanks for sharing. It is well written.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by Avicebron on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:07PM (#50343762)
That was a great read.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by ChickeNES on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:28PM (#50344878)
Tbh, this was so heavy handed/poorly written that I couldn't get past the first six paragraphs or so. If this is supposed to be good satire, it's coming off more as "Epic Movie" than "Brazil"
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by EA-3167 on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:54PM (#50344390)
Don't worry, it's far from the majority viewpoint, it's largely an 'AI' industry viewpoint that's being screamed at peak volume to drown out the ongoing economic reality that this period of insane overinvestment is drawing to a close. Who knows what the future holds for this tech, but I suspect in a year or two with the money no longer blinding everyone, we'll have much more realistic conversations.

For now unfortunately we're doomed to an endless retread of "AI boosters vs AI haters" with very little humility and thought on either side.

Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by joe_the_user on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:21PM (#50346257)
I think that if you had hiring policies that allowed people not to worry about whether they got credit for an achievement, you'd have people significantly more OK with transitioning to an "egoless" approach.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by nradov on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @01:04AM (#50348618)
How would the hiring committees decide who to hire if not based on achievements? Flip a coin?
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by neutronicus on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:24AM (#50350631)
Racial bias
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by boelboel on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:03AM (#50350946)
I think at some point flipping a coin can actually be a good idea for this sort of problem, and there's some researchers/employers who agree. It might actually be more fair than trying to find differences, actually more often than not introducing bias, when there's a lot of competition for a spot/job. Just put the top 5, top 10% or top 20% of those who fulfil a set of requirements in a raffle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_by_lottery

Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by MrScruff on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @02:36AM (#50349150)
I've always found the colleagues that were less focused on credit, recognition, awards made better colleagues. Fundamentally it's about who you'd rather be holding you in high regard - people who've worked with you or people reading your LinkedIn profile.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by boelboel on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:25AM (#50350189)
If you're in a field with fierce competition the ones who focus on credit/recognition/awards get some sort of boost above their actual potential. Meanwhile those who don't will get punished and the ones who end up doing well despite it just had better natural aptitude on top of having more pleasant characteristics. It's some sort of Berkson’s paradox.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by watwut on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:32AM (#50350690)
Yes, they are better colleagues. They do not get promotions, pay raise or any other recognition or reward from management. Even from colleagues who hold them in high regards, they do not get praise on meetings as much either.

However, people with ego end up being praised more, in front of bosses or others, because people want to be on their good side. And that makes them look better, they end up promoted and seen as higher performers.

Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era by hardbass on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:05AM (#50349323)
I don't understand how making policies based on the truth is wrong. What did you mean by that?