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Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by Aurornis on Monday November 02, 2026 @12:34PM (#50340395)
That's not really true. Measuring the equivalent retail cost of the usage is the only way to put it in a relatable perspective.

If Anthropic had revealed their internal cost, there comments would be complaining that they were hiding something and giving useless, unrelatable data.

The expenditure is most interesting when compared to retail rates, because that's the rate the rest of us have to compare against.

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @12:46PM (#50340606)
What's is the 'retail cost'? Because nobody (except total idiots) is actually paying their published API pricing.
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @01:06PM (#50340920)
Most "enterprise" companies are paying full API costs. The subscription deals are only available to consumers. If you want enterprise levels of control over how your staff are using the models you need to pay up.
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by eddythompson80 on Monday November 02, 2026 @01:48PM (#50341621)
Not even close. "enterprise" companies are negotiating contracts. Call it pre-provisioned capacity, wholesale pricing, etc. Same is true for AWS, Azure, Salesforce, or literally any SaaS provider ever. There is a reason literally every single pricing page for any SaaS provider has an "Enterprise? call us" column.
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by Aurornis on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:57PM (#50342750)
The enterprise discounts are not as extreme as the personal subscriptions.

Unless you managed to talk them into that, in which case, share your secrets!

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:21PM (#50342158)
From what I've heard those enterprise negotiated discounts for Anthropic tend to be in the 15-30% range, which isn't anywhere near the deal you could get from using the $100/ or $200/ or $500/month subscriptions.
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:39PM (#50344189)
that still directly contradicts what you said above...
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:40PM (#50344200)
I said "most", not "all". I'll take that risk.
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:47PM (#50344307)
Do you have any data to back that up? Not really worried about which pronouns are used in this case
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:05PM (#50344542)
I do not have hard data that can support my claim that "most" Anthropic enterprise customers are paying full price. Just anecdotal evidence from stories like these:

https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/the-pulse-token-spend-bre... - "I talked with companies spending $5M+ per year on Claude which have received no discounts. If Anthropic offers discounts, it will likely be at a much higher tier."

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/anthropic-openai-fig... - "Anthropic’s discounts on its models can be around 15% off listed prices, according to managers from the three software firms that buy AI from both companies."

Plus my own personal conversations with a small number of people at medium to large sized companies who said that Anthropic's sales teams were hard to get discounts from.

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:37PM (#50344169)
Really? How much of anthropic's revenue is coming from API usage at public/retail rates (without discounts or credits)?
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:22PM (#50344783)
That information isn't public, but the closest we can get is from the S-1 telling us that for the nine months ending September 30, 2026, consumption-based (pay-per-token) revenue was $26.3bn, subscriptions were $6.9bn.

Page 140 of https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2130357/000162828026...

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:49PM (#50346498)
If that information is not public (of course it's not lol), I don't see why you would follow that up with stats that don't actually answer the question and imply they somehow get us closer to the answer...? do you own anthropic stock/options?
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by simonw on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:52PM (#50346521)
No, I deliberately don't own stock in the companies I write about (or any single companies at all, aside from a Vanguard index fund.)

I've learned enough that I am confident that enterprise companies pay a lot more for their tokens than $100/month subscribers, and that negotiated enterprise discounts don't change that fact in a meaningful way.

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by aleqs on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:07PM (#50346654)
I don't disagree that they pay more, but how much more? The value/usage of a $100 sub is also fairly opaque and perpetually decreasing...
Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by Aurornis on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:54PM (#50342717)
Most of their revenue comes from customers pay API pricing.

Those individual subscription plans you get as a consumer are not what their big enterprise customers are using.

Those plans are cheap so you, as an individual, can get familiar with the product and convince your company to get it at work. Your company pays the API prices to get enterprise features.

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by andrekandre on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:18PM (#50348008)

  > Those individual subscription plans you get as a consumer are not what their big enterprise customers are using.
maybe, maybe not.

i am sure there are companies that push individual employees to get the cheaper individual subscriptions

Re:Anthropic's internal AI use, at retail prices, now exceed... by Anon1096 on Monday November 02, 2026 @01:00PM (#50340826)
Big companies actually are paying published API rates, Anthropic and OpenAI models are desirable enough that there is very little wiggle room to negotiate. It's their way or the high way. Same with things like "safety" filters and (for Fable) mandatory data retention.