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Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by titzer on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:23AM (#50339189)
> But as an counterexample, do we need to hold machine code or assembly, generated from our C or Golang programs, in our heads?

No, the source is enough, because the low-level assembly is translated from the high-level source descriptions (a sound programming language with a complete and consistent specification) via a deterministic algorithmic translation process (a compiler) to a low-level executable that can run on a machine. Today, compilers are complex, but still human understandable. The programs are equivalent, and we're getting better able to actually prove this.

This is why I bristle when people say "post your prompts". Your prompts are not a program and the magic box is not a compiler.

Too many people abandoning everything, either due to laziness, mental overload, or..."skill issues".

I still want to see code. I want write code, check code, optimize and refactor code. I don't want to spend a lot of time debugging, but maybe a little.

The clankers should be accelerating the parts of the process we are bad at, and that takes time we won't spend: long, time-consuming refactors, debugging deep issues, writing crap tons of tests, investigating performance issues, digesting other people's code.

AI should be more like a bicycle than a cruise ship. And I mean the "bicycle for the mind" that Jobs wanted.

Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by az09mugen on Monday November 02, 2026 @12:22PM (#50340199)
100% agreed on this, as Quentin Adam, the CEO of CleverCloud stated : "AI is inhuman so we must give it inhuman tasks".
Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by pfdietz on Monday November 02, 2026 @01:32PM (#50341347)
Like creating correct software?
Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by az09mugen on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:51PM (#50345970)
This is so sarcastic but not funny.
Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by pfdietz on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:21PM (#50346260)
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." -- Mel Brooks
Re:Wir müssen wissen – wir werden wissen by em-bee on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:54PM (#50344385)
exactly. it is upsetting that even people like linus torvalds argue that if you think that using LLMs for coding is bad, why are you using a compiler?

i use a compiler and not an LLM because the compiler is deterministic. i can trust that the same code input will always (for the same version of the compiler) produce the same machine code as output. the LLM will not.