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Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by cloudbonsai on Saturday October 31, 2026 @08:38AM (#50315619)
I want to express a very different perspective here as a counterpoint: I'm really grateful for the Signal team's work.

Today, I discussed my father's health condition with my family. Signal worked smoothly (even for my aging mother!), and it's free and secure.

Over the past five years, I have donated $500 to the foundation in total. I hope they continue to maintain the app into the far future.

Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by g-b-r on Saturday October 31, 2026 @08:56AM (#50315771)
Do you support what the above user contests?
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by Forgeties79 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @09:04AM (#50315828)
It’s a different perspective. Not everything is a direct argument about the exact thing written. No need to be like that.
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by g-b-r on Saturday October 31, 2026 @09:43AM (#50316141)
You can both appreciate Signal overall and be critical of some aspects.

What the user criticizes is due to sheer choices, which affect some users a lot; for example, numberless registration and full cloud backups can only be purchased with a Google or an Apple account, which clashes a bit with the privacy objectives.

And it's not a problem of not having the infrastructure to support other payment methods, since the donations support all the common ones, and there's now even a cryptocurrency integrated in the platform.

Disallowing and ostracizing other clients is a choice, they spent effort to enforce it (for example by adding mechanisms to recognize the official clients).

Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by Forgeties79 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @09:51AM (#50316197)
I’m not disagreeing with any particular points of the argument, I just don’t think the person needed to respond like that.
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by g-b-r on Saturday October 31, 2026 @10:07AM (#50316350)
Alright
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by latexr on Saturday October 31, 2026 @09:20AM (#50315950)
Hear hear. It’s been my observation that HN in particular has become much more combative. It’s full on like the meme where someone says “I like strawberries” and someone else complains “oh, so you hate pineapples?! They’re a fruit too, you know?! My great-grandfather ate pineapples. You’re a monster”¹. Yeah, chill, no one said anything about pineapples, stop assuming things or thinking everyone is against you. Don’t succumb to the tribalism.

¹ Unfortunately, I feel I must point out that I’m (I hope obviously) exaggerating for comedic effect.

Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by Intermernet on Saturday October 31, 2026 @09:53AM (#50316214)
But we've always been at war with Strawbania.
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by WhyIsItAlwaysHN on Saturday October 31, 2026 @10:21AM (#50316476)
I had the same thought today. I had no fights in HN since years of being on here, but there's much more aggression recently.
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by Forgeties79 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @11:13AM (#50316896)
What really disturbs me as I’m watching myself engage it more frequently. I’ve left other sites because I didn’t like the side of me that came out. Feeling a little bit like that these days here.
Re:Molly(Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months an... by b33l on Saturday October 31, 2026 @11:34AM (#50317121)
antistra