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Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by betterunix on Sunday January 06, 2013 @11:02PM (#5019240)
If websites are worried, why not just use TLS, which should prevent this sort of thing? This is not ABP, it is just an ISP being naughty (albeit in a way that its customers probably like).
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by krichman on Monday January 07, 2013 @12:09AM (#5019483)
I wish all websites would use TLS. I've seen ISPs do a bunch of shady bullshit like redirecting misspelled domains to their own landing pages and placing an advertisement in third-party pages by sending fraudulent HTML. A secure connection for any transfer of information is the only defence a user has.
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by gojomo on Sunday January 06, 2013 @11:58PM (#5019453)
My impression from the article is that the ad-blocking is done at the client, when they use the ISP's standard software install. So TLS/HTTPS won't help.
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by boq on Monday January 07, 2013 @03:42AM (#5020085)
Free, as well as all major ISPs in France, rents you a router when you subscribe. This is where the filtering is done, using lying DNSs it seems.
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by chii on Monday January 07, 2013 @02:45AM (#5019942)
in this day and age, requiring installation of software from the ISP to get online is very suspicious, and should be frowned up on.

I would explain to a non-technical person by analogy - imagine the telco needed you to use _their_ particular telephone when you make/recieve calls.

Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by qbrass on Monday January 07, 2013 @12:06PM (#5021935)
It shouldn't be hard to imagine for a lot of people who lived before the mid 80's.

The Bell monopoly required you to not only use their handsets, you usually had to lease the phone from them.

Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by eurleif on Sunday January 06, 2013 @11:13PM (#5019274)
Whether TLS would prevent it depends on how it's implemented. They could just drop connections to AdSense's servers.
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by tonfa on Monday January 07, 2013 @02:04AM (#5019827)
That's what happens, they block at the DNS level. Counter-measure could be to put those under google.com, but there might be issues with cookie sharing between ads and products (not necessarily technical issues).
Re:Ad Blocking Raises Alarm Among Firms Like Google by chii on Monday January 07, 2013 @02:46AM (#5019944)
i dont see why not more people use a public DNS (or google's own DNS - its super easy to remember 8.8.8.8).

It prevents the ISP from screwing around on their end.