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Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @07:25AM (#50085937)
Complete comms blockade with Russia. Complete trade embargo with Russia. Complete embargo of sanction breaching states. Complete sea blockade in the Baltic and Mediterranean. All within technical reach and no option of proportional retaliation by Russia.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by ericmay on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @09:23AM (#50087376)
Great - when will Europe start doing that? It doesn’t even ban Russian tourists.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @03:33PM (#50093706)
I am posting this from Norway. It most certainly bans Russian tourists.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by ericmay on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @04:15PM (#50094461)
Yes but not most of the EU, right? If I’m wrong please correct me as this would be new information.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @04:49PM (#50095003)
I think it's banned in most of Northern Europe, with less enthusiasm in the South. However there's an effort to ban it across the bloc, which is likely to happen at some point.

https://www.rferl.org/a/eu-limits-russians-entering-bloc/338...

And anyhow, your question was what Europe can really do to end the war. I just listed some practical, low escalation options.

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by ericmay on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @04:57PM (#50095112)
Sure but why only low escalation options? It’s a war. Also I’m not too sure much of those are necessarily “low” escalation. But let’s assume they are. I agree with the goals - let’s get Europe to implement as soon as possible. Do you think a “coms blackout” for example will force Russia out of Ukraine? Idk.

Also why is it taking a long time? Why is Brussels working on a “nuclear” option? Just ban them tomorrow, and seize Russian assets and property in the EU. Have all Russians return to Russia. What is Europe waiting for and why wasn’t this done on day 1 of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Thursday October 15, 2026 @03:14AM (#50100333)
A comms blackout and other forms of blockade will severely hamper Russian influence ops in the West. That would make other forms of confronting Russia politically tenable.

For my end am fine with just glassing Russia today, you don't have to convince me.

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:50AM (#50102906)
Glassing Russia? You and what army?
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:55AM (#50102971)
I dunno, maybe we should ask Pakistan, the greatest power of South Asia.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 15, 2026 @10:23PM (#50113135)
Good luck with that. And there is no such thing as "South Asia," just like there is no such thing as Europe. The former is the Indian subcontinent and the latter is West Eurasia.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:59AM (#50114625)
Eurasia wasn't used until the appearance of 20th century movements. But fine I'll rephrase: Pakistan, the greatest power on Indian subcontinent.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Friday October 16, 2026 @02:35AM (#50114892)
Well they're more powerful than all the Baltic statelets and Scandinavian "countries" combined, so I'll give you that.

https://www.globalhungerindex.org/Pakistan.html

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @02:49AM (#50114992)
Very possibly so! They've won all their wars over India too which is much more populous than all the Nordics too.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Friday October 16, 2026 @03:27AM (#50115252)
You probably think The Ukraine is winning as well.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @06:33AM (#50116670)
I am not thinking that Ukraine is winning but I am a decent human being so naturally can't cheer for Russia.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 22, 2026 @11:44PM (#50204271)
A decent human being doesn't pray for "glassing" a country.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Friday October 16, 2026 @05:52AM (#50116342)
Especially the 1971 war, where they won so well that East Pakistan became a new country.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @06:39AM (#50116717)
Channel your indignation into victorious dance.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:49AM (#50102894)
You do understand that a naval blockade is an overt act of war?

You're basically asking two nuclear powers to go to war. The US has been sly in its blockades, but anything like what you're suggesting is basically WW-3.

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:54AM (#50102949)
Speaking of overt acts of war, Russia just blew up a merchant vessel in EU territorial waters. A little blockade will do just fine.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 15, 2026 @11:59PM (#50113910)
About time. I really don't understand why Russia has been so restrained. They should have used NATO style tactics from day one, like the methods used on Yugoslavia, Iraq and Syria.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:52AM (#50114579)
So we agree that blockade is not a problem then, goodie.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Friday October 16, 2026 @05:52AM (#50116336)
Russia should have done exactly what NATO did to Yugoslavia et al.

Unfortunately they are too nice for their own good.

You Europeons should thank your stars that President Putin is a man of restraint; someone like Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Hussain would have wrecked Europe overnight.

Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by varjag on Friday October 16, 2026 @06:38AM (#50116706)
Maybe Russia should have tried that on NATO if that's where it's beef is, rather than attacking a neutral third country. But Russia is a weak bully and weak bullies seek for weaker victims (and have weak, cowardly sympathizers).
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by SanjayMehta on Thursday October 22, 2026 @12:39AM (#50191235)
Neutral country? They were collaborating with NATO.
Re:Starlink limit hits Ukraine's drones. The battlefield dep... by the_why_of_y on Saturday October 17, 2026 @05:33AM (#50129431)
NATO never had a combat mission in Syria or Iraq.

Russia, on the other hand, together with the Syrian government bombed so many hospitals in Syria that Doctors Without Borders stopped reporting the locations of their hospitals.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/18/msf-will-not-s...

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/10/15/syria/russia-strategy-ta...