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Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by leptons on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @12:15AM (#50082310)
>As soon as Apple is forced to allow Chrome on iOS, I won’t even have that opt-out available to me.

Those are quite the mental gymnastics you're doing here. You know, you could just choose not to install Chrome, right?

>If you want to use Google, they have a whole mobile OS you can use.

If someone bought an i-device, they don't get to choose, Safari is forced on them.

>Why take away my choice as a consumer that prefers Safari?

Calm down, nobody is taking away your choice by allowing Chrome to run its own browser engine on iOS. You're totally delusional and making shit up that would never happen.

Apple is the only one that's forcing you to do anything. They are the ones that took away your ability to choose. You seriously sound totally brainwashed.

Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by labcomputer on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @12:34AM (#50082426)
Ok, I'll bite: How would you choose not to install Chrome? You would just... not use the web? Some choice.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by sharts on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @01:19AM (#50082715)
this is the same as when IE was the standard
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by boesboes on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @04:50AM (#50084433)
Which was the point
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by leptons on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @05:01AM (#50084539)
You must be trolling, you can't be this stupid.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by amazingman on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @01:45AM (#50082895)
The implication was that website makers won't be forced to support Safari because they'll just decide to require Chrome.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by leptons on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @05:00AM (#50084529)
If Safari weren't a piece of intentionally hobbled crap, maybe it could compete.

Maybe Apple shouldn't hold back web standards to force people to install native apps where Apple can extract 30% of all purchases from the apps.

Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by azuanrb on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @05:19AM (#50084688)
Hold back Chrome standards, you mean? Features that work in Chrome but not in other browsers. There are even features that work better in Safari than Firefox. Not everything Chrome pushes should automatically become the standard.

Personally, I don’t care about most of those Chrome specific features. I use Safari because it’s fast and battery efficient. The fact that it’s not made by a company whose main business is advertising is a nice bonus.

Sure, Apple has an advertising business too, but it’s nowhere near the scale of Google’s.

Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by leptons on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @02:39PM (#50092774)
This is how it actually works:

Browser vendors come up with improvements.

The W3C board (which Apple and Google are a part of) gets to vote on the implementations and suggest changes.

The new feature either becomes a standard or not.

Apple wields their power here to block any new feature that could make a web browser compete with native apps where Apple can extract 30% of all purchases made through apps.

Apple isn't making suggestions for any changes to the proposals, they just block any new feature that might let browsers become as functional as native apps, purely out of greed.

Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by soraminazuki on Thursday October 15, 2026 @05:14AM (#50101160)
Or, you can go see with your own eyes how web standards actually work.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200329112109/https://twitter.c...

Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by amazingman on Thursday October 15, 2026 @04:04AM (#50100708)
That's a different topic.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by soraminazuki on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @08:01AM (#50086316)
It's not even implied, it's very explicitly stated in the second sentence but GP chose to attack a straw man anyways.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by thegiogi on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @03:16AM (#50083633)
Wait you can’t install chrome on iOS? I can see it in the Apple Store - is that a regional thing? I’m in Europe.
Re:Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you s... by stnikolauswagne on Wednesday October 14, 2026 @03:34AM (#50083798)
I think this is referring to the fact that the chrome IOS app is just a chrome wrapper for web kit and not "actual" chrome.