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Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by 3RTB297 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @11:35PM (#49987799)
>have a generic plate that can go anywhere

Functionally, that's what already exists - the standards are dimensions and readability. There's no CA smog inspection station as you enter the state, this is about people abusing a loophole. I spent all 4 years of college in CA with a CA driver's license, a car with out of state plates, and zero Kafkaesque issues. Maybe tax avoidance loopholes are Kafkaesque because they're not how anyone is supposed to do things.

As one more wacky way to do it, some countries rivet the license plate to the car because the plates never change. They're basically shorthand for the VIN, so the owner and their place of residence don't matter, only where the car was first registered.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by PHGamer on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @01:19AM (#49988543)
its not abusing a loophole. if something isnt in a state for more than 50% of the calendar year the state should have no claim to it. its a federal matter at the point cross border taxation IMO.
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by notpushkin on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @03:43AM (#49989576)
So I can buy two cars and just drive each for 162 days in a year?
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by kelnos on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @09:31AM (#49992604)
It's not about how much you drive it, it's about where it's located.
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by cowlevel on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @11:50AM (#49994546)
So I can buy 3 cars and park them in 3 different states each for 122 days a year?
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by notpushkin on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @02:42PM (#49997061)
This.

I mean you do have to live close to a (tri-)state border to pull this off, but it’s probably doable.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by NetMageSCW on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @07:15PM (#50000046)
Nope, it’s about where you are considered a resident.
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by notpushkin on Thursday October 08, 2026 @04:37AM (#50003300)
Doesn’t work if you don’t own the car.

As a reminder, we’re talking about a (hypothetical) 183-day rule for car registration here (as opposed to the ~30-day one we currently have, which makes loopholes that we discuss here absolutely impractical).

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by pjc50 on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @02:28AM (#49989078)
The UK system associates the plates with your car. This incurs basically two pieces of paperwork online when you sell it, one of which is also annual taxation.

The administration has gradually modernized so that all the legal requirements of tax/registration/insurance can be checked online.

However, there's a loophole that's apparently becoming popular: "ghost plates". Number plates aren't a secure document. They have no authenticity markers. So you can just.. print your own, slap them on, and you're very unlikely to get police attention. A subset of that is plates which are IR scattering so they don't show up on speed cameras.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by simoncion on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @04:58AM (#49990082)
> However, there's a loophole that's apparently becoming popular: "ghost plates".

We don't call fake IDs either a loophole or "ghost IDs". When presented as identity documents, they're fraudulent identity documents. It doesn't matter if that ID is being presented to a bouncer in order to get in to a bar, or to everyone who cares to look at your car's bumper while it drives down the motorway, it's still a fake ID.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by quietbritishjim on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @05:36AM (#49990359)
> A subset of that is plates which are IR scattering so they don't show up on speed cameras.

Only these are "ghost plates". So called because the letters appear faint, or ghost like, on ANPR cameras.

Using illegal plates, either ghost ones or cloned ones (where they're real plates but for the wrong vehicle) are not loopholes, any more than breaking into someone's house and stealing their stuff is a "loophole" for property ownership.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by shrikant on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @06:46AM (#49990915)
"Loophole"? The secret ingredient is crime...
Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by kelnos on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @09:30AM (#49992594)
> I spent all 4 years of college in CA with a CA driver's license, a car with out of state plates

Pretty sure that's illegal, no? You have 30 days after bringing a car into the state to register it with the CA DMV.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by NetMageSCW on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @07:13PM (#50000034)
Nope: moving to California just to attend school does not grant residency status.

It’s not 30 days it’s 20 but it isn’t “bringing into the state”, it is becoming a resident of the state, and that has more requirements than just showing up for a month.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by 3RTB297 on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:45AM (#50002940)
The car wasn't registered in my name, it was registered with my parents and I was an authorized driver. Realistically, it's a question for the insurance company I imagine. Can an authorized driver have a driver's license from another state? Seems like an odd geographic limit for a national insurance company to make.

Considering that half the parking lot of my building was out of state plates, it seems like it's not a huge concern for anyone.

Re:How California Closed the Montana License Plate Loophole by kube-system on Thursday October 08, 2026 @02:08PM (#50009571)
> Functionally, that's what already exists - the standards are dimensions and readability.

It's mostly a voluntary standard for convenience. You can still get 5.5" x 9.5" plates in Delaware.