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Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by skippyboxedhero on Saturday September 26, 2026 @09:43AM (#49856483)
Investment is risky and uncertain. If you did not do anything because it might fail, you would do nothing at all.

The inability to cope with failure is a culture that is common in Europe. Failure is so personally devastating, so destructive to social and cultural standing that not only must you not take risks but other people must be actively prevented from taking risk.

Maybe the US investment doesn't work, but the US will have tried at least. Taiwan is, ironically, the perfect example of where the initial impetus came from the government because there was no culture of risk-taking. Parts of Europe have a savings culture that is very similar to Taiwan and led to very poor growth and very high inequality.

If the US keeps trying, they will succeed. On here, the view was that China could never build out this capacity, they did. The only way to guarantee failure is to never try.

Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by charlieyu1 on Saturday September 26, 2026 @11:30AM (#49857493)
It’s more about not being able to hire PhDs for $50k a year, tell them it’s a lot of money and make them work Asian hours and efficiency
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by 361994752 on Saturday September 26, 2026 @12:36PM (#49858155)
then just hire them in asia.. and stick to globalization...?
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by nixon_why69 on Saturday September 26, 2026 @12:54PM (#49858344)
That's part of the culture OP was referencing. Another part is not having ad tech jobs easily available paying 5-10x as much for easier work. A big part of Asian success at hard tech fields is just not having better options.
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by throwaway2037 on Sunday September 27, 2026 @02:03AM (#49863787)
There are probably zero STEM PhDs working for TSMC making 50K USD total comp per year. The bonuses are enormous at TSMC these days.
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by Grimburger on Monday September 28, 2026 @11:41AM (#49879791)
The amount of supercars and high end vehicles in Hsinchu is unreal. Probably all anyone needs to know here, until you've seen it firsthand you wouldn't understand.
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by throwaway2037 on Monday September 28, 2026 @12:38PM (#49880735)
Great point. I read about this a few times. Here is a juicy quote that I found: "Ferrari sales in Taiwan doubled over a four-year period." Yikes! Hello, new money!
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by mitxela on Saturday September 26, 2026 @10:43AM (#49857068)
There are businesses and business failures and government project failures in Europe all the time.
Re:ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, ex... by skippyboxedhero on Saturday September 26, 2026 @10:48AM (#49857131)
From neglect, not enterprise. The level of failure is also too low.