What's the non-math part you think? All of currently known physics is turing computable as far as I am aware.

currently known physics is not good enough..

It is quite an arbitrary classification. What is so special about "current" knowledge...

If you think current physics is insufficient but future physics might be sufficient, I can accept that but its still an unfounded belief. If you truly believe something "more" is needed, then you are placing a bet that always lost for centuries. Bets in anything supernatural or aphysical have always and consistently failed till now.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Not my words.

That magic means a different thing from supernatural magic.

Oh, What does it mean then?

You are so amusing....

Its a purely physical mechanism but one that is currently beyond our understanding. "Magic" magic is belief in souls, eg brains have aphysical magic.

Why do you think "souls" can't have some physical mechanism that is beyond our current understanding?

If you think "souls" have some physical mechanism then they are not souls by the definition I am using. We would then agree, though I do not yet think we have found reason for new physical laws to be required, however that can of course be a possibility.

>they are not souls by the definition

Kindly share that concrete definition..

It should have been clear from our discussion when I said "souls" I meant belief in the non-physical. Magic juice in the brain that is unexplainable by physics at all.

Being unexplainable by current physics but explainable by future physics is not a "soul" by that definition.

> non-physical.

Now, what is your definition for this?

Go ask the people who believe in it. I for one cannot understand how something aphysical can affect our thoughts and decisions. But some think consciousness resides outside of physical systems entirely.

But you said it, so you should have a definition, or else what did you mean to communicate by saying it?

Or are you just parroting cool sounding words and phrases?

Define consciousness

All humans intrinsically understand it what that word refer to. So it is ok if we cannot define it in words. It conveys the idea..

But "non-physical"? I don't have a clue what it means...Why don't you tell me..