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Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by bko on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:32PM (#49578726)
> Rather, people doubt that they would belong to the over-policed parties

I don't think the people recording regular police interactions and refusing police instructions when stopped ever had any doubt about being over-policed.

> NSF funding from my relatives: "yes, funding has been illegally cut,..."

How is a cut illegal? Does any additional dollar in funding have to persist for all of eternity. For reference:

| FY | NSF appropriation |

| 1952 | $4M |

| 1960 | $153M |

| 1970 | $440M |

| 1980 | $992M |

| 1990 | $2.08B |

| 2000 | $3.91B |

| 2010 | $6.87B |

| 2020 | $8.21B |

| 2024 | $9.06B |

| 2025 | $9.06B |

| 2026 | $8.75B |

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by mullingitover on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:47PM (#49578885)
> How is a cut illegal?

If the Office of Management and Budget follows a president's order to cut NSF funds and they violate the Anti-Deficiency Act, it's literally a crime. If the president orders the violation in order to achieve some political outcome, that's also bribery and extortion.

In this mafia regime it's a case of 'throw it on the pile,' but it doesn't change the fact that this stuff is wildly illegal. The president's job is to be the dumb unthinking agent of Congress and to execute the laws they pass on behalf of the people. Budgets are laws.

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by Supermancho on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:56PM (#49578980)
> The president's job is to be the dumb unthinking agent of Congress

Execution will never be as simple as the textual content of a bill, so I'm not sure 'mindless' is a useful term.

While the POTUS is expected to be a bureaucrat, functionally and conceptually that is only one aspect of their responsibilities. Military oversight and diplomatic coordination as head of state, comes to mind.

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by mullingitover on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:34PM (#49579341)
I'm oversimplifying, but when it comes to the budget I'm pretty accurate: the president can't just decide they won't spend the money because they don't like where it's going or who it's going to. They certainly can't extort the lawful recipients of the money.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by blooalien on Sunday September 06, 2026 @04:59AM (#49584567)
I'm not 100% sure about your usage of the word "can't" since it's been actively happening. Maybe "shouldn't" might apply better to the reality of the world we now find ourselves living in.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by mullingitover on Sunday September 06, 2026 @08:51AM (#49586087)
It’s evident from the context, but to spell it out: can’t legally.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by ipython on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:53PM (#49578954)
If you feel there should be cuts to nsf, then congress should do so (as enshrined by law). Not executive fiat by the president. Per the constitution the congress has the power of the purse.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by blooalien on Sunday September 06, 2026 @05:07AM (#49584607)
> If you feel there should be cuts to nsf, then congress should do so (as enshrined by law). Not executive fiat by the president. Per the constitution the congress has the power of the purse.

Yes, exactly, and if someone don't like what the Constitution says, then you either do the proper patriotic thing and gather enough folks who agree with you to change or amend it, or you (as the MAGA loons are so fond of telling folks) move to a different country with rules you can agree with.

Sadly, that's not the world we now live in. We've let psychotic narcissists overun our government to a dangerous degree, making it near impossible to change those things that need changed, because they have all the money, power, and weapons, and they're not afraid to use them against "We The People". At this rate, I half-expect I'll see Trump out on 5th Avenue one day soon, testing his theory about him shooting someone without consequence.

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by odo1242 on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:35PM (#49578760)
Government funding must be approved by Congress. If Congress already approved funding the NSF, then it has to be Congress that removes the funding.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by bko on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:43PM (#49578836)
Wrong again:

> The request proposes $4 billion for NSF, a 54% cut from the fiscal year 2026 enacted level. The amount echoes last year’s proposal of $3.9 billion, which Congress soundly rejected, funding the agency at $8.75 billion.

https://www.aip.org/fyi/trump-proposes-deep-research-cuts-ne...

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by GymInMeCricket on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:52PM (#49578945)
Appologies, but I don't see how this supports your point. It actually seems to support the claim that the reduction in NSF awards is illegal because it states that the request was explicitly rejected by Congress
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by oh_my_goodness on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:04PM (#49579072)
Your link confirms that the cuts are illegal.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by bko on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:09PM (#49579122)
Wrong again. Read it, feed it to your LLM, but you're wrong.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by GymInMeCricket on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:33PM (#49579326)
Your pasted quote explicitly says that Congress did not allow the cuts. I do not know what point you are trying to make.

For good measure, I pasted it into Gemini as you requested, and this is what it said:

> Me: Does this say that the president is allowed to prevent distribution of funds from NSF without congressional approval: https://www.aip.org/fyi/trump-proposes-deep-research-cuts-ne...

>

> Gemini: No, it does not. [etc.]

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by bko on Saturday September 05, 2026 @07:05PM (#49581581)
Lets me help you since you seem confused, i put the parts you should pay close attention to

> > The request PROPOSES $4 billion for NSF, a 54% cut from the fiscal year 2026 enacted level. The amount echoes last year’s proposal of $3.9 billion, which Congress soundly rejected, FUNDING THE AGENCY at $8.75 billion.

The current FUNDING is $8.75b, not the $4b he PROPOSED. Here's the wikipedia. Hope this helps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Foundation

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by GymInMeCricket on Sunday September 06, 2026 @12:35AM (#49583351)
Your statement is irrelevant to the fact that, on the executive branch's insistence, NSF has distributed far fewer funds this year (approximately 30%) than were required by Congress. We know and have repeatedly stated that the amount of money that Congress ALLOCATED TO the NSF has not changed. It is the amount of money DISTRIBUTED BY NSF that has been restricted. I don't know why you insist that allocations and disperment are the same thing. Repetition does not make it so. If you wish to present convincing evidence for your position, you must provide evidence that DISPERSEMENTS FROM the NSF have not changed. Otherwise, I see no point in continuing this circular conversation.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by bdangubic on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:06PM (#49579085)
file this under definition of self-own in Webster’s :)
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by GymInMeCricket on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:41PM (#49578823)
My understanding is that congress chooses how much money should be distributed to each organization (e.g. NSF) each year, and preventing that money from being distributed is not legal. If I understand correctly, your table is of appropriation from Congress, not distribution[1]. I am open to being corrected if I am wrong.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02574-6

Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by oh_my_goodness on Saturday September 05, 2026 @02:03PM (#49579059)
Cuts must come from congress. Read Constitution.
Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by Forgeties79 on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:33PM (#49578740)
The cuts can be illegal if one doesn’t have the authority to cut it and/or violates the procedures required.
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Re:Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traff... by Forgeties79 on Saturday September 05, 2026 @01:57PM (#49578993)
> You're trying to back into a position that you read in some article and trying to come off as just an impartial judge who cares about procedure and rule of law.

Excuse me?

I was answering the question, I didn’t say anything beyond that. Ease off the gas.

Also, based on your other comment chain it looks like Congress did not approve it. But I don’t know enough about the specific cut to say either way.

You came in here with a clear ax to grind and decided I was going to be your target. Don’t project your anger at some caricature on to me. Take a beat.