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Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by dbspin on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:29AM (#49434826)
> even the M5 laptops are consistently beat on performance and battery life by Intel Windows laptops.

When plugged in... This caveat is so enormous it should almost be legislated. If your computer use is at all portable, a computer that scales down to 20 - 40% of GPU power when unplugged is an enormously significant factor. So far as I'm aware (could be wrong about arm devices?) there's no non-apple laptop that operates at 100% speed on the road.

Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by doomroot13 on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:51AM (#49435190)
Newer Intel Panther Lake chips perform the same or very similarly on battery as they do when plugged in - as do Qualcomm chips. However, I don't know where they're seeing "consistently beat on performance and battery life by Intel Windows laptops". Multi-core performance can definitely beat M5 in some configurations but single core performance is still fairly far behind and battery life is comparable again depending on the exact specifications and design of the laptop. I've seen analysis showing M5 is still the perf/watt king though regardless of configurations.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:02AM (#49435398)
Sorry, poor wording. It's the Neo that's on the bottom in many reviews, but the M5 is regularly beaten by Windows laptops. My usage of "consistently" was in the sense of regularly beaten, not in the sense of always beaten.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by senordevnyc on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:18AM (#49435648)
So…inconsistently?
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:19AM (#49435656)
So consistently beats the M5 on something, just not on everything.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:48AM (#49435140)
Have you tried Panther Lake or Wildcat Lake laptops?
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by inigyou on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:52AM (#49435215)
Jesus, they're still calling their chips Lake? As in Skylake? As in 2012?
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by fhn on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:01AM (#49435379)
Jesus, why does it matter? Don't you still have your name since birth? How lame!
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by coro_1 on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:44AM (#49436061)
They keep the legacy processing of content around. But the originating teams and founders are long gone.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by inigyou on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @12:40PM (#49436865)
Because the naming convention was used for chips based on Skylake microarchitecture (but with other differences such as process node). Not changing the name implies they've either changed the naming convention (why?) or they haven't improved the microarchitecture since 2012.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by officeplant on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @03:57PM (#49439754)
>they haven't improved the microarchitecture since 2012.

No, but they did beat 14nm like a dead horse for almost a decade. So you're not that far off.

Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by someothherguyy on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @02:03PM (#49438065)
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by adgjlsfhk1 on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:52AM (#49435204)
Apple also is faster when plugged in
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by dbspin on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @11:14AM (#49435576)
Citation needed. I've owned Apple laptops for many years - and I'm a video editor (amongst other things). If this is the case it's new behaviour.
Re:Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra for a big leap in perfor... by addaon on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @12:28PM (#49436657)
This is a difference between selecting Highest or Automatic for performance under the battery menu item.