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Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by MetaWhirledPeas on Monday August 24, 2026 @06:02PM (#49426434)
> The fact that AI models can be so easily distilled and replicated is such a stroke of luck.

Sort of. It means the country on the verge of monopolizing all aspects of hardware production (China) doesn't need to rely on outsiders for the software. So while that weakens one monopoly it strengthens another.

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by byzantinegene on Monday August 24, 2026 @09:47PM (#49428164)
China is still quite far from monopolizing hardware production
Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by NegativeLatency on Monday August 24, 2026 @11:31PM (#49428783)
Can you buy a laptop or phone not made in china, not made from parts from china?

At a regular store not some weird nerd laptop for normies.

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by tjek on Monday August 24, 2026 @11:57PM (#49428895)
The fact that the goalpost is moving is a clear sign China is losing its hardware dominance. 5-10 years ago you would have specified not Made/Assembled in China (which is very easy to find nowadays, e.g. Samsung Galaxy, Google Pixel, even iPhones).

Can you buy a phone/laptop with no parts from USA/Japan/Netherlands/Taiwan/South Korea?

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by Gud on Monday August 24, 2026 @11:39PM (#49428810)
China doesn’t produce the chips that AI runs on.
Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by jml78 on Wednesday August 26, 2026 @08:05AM (#49447535)
That was true a year ago but is no longer true. Deepseek is training and running inference on Huawei chips.

The times of China needing Nvidia chips is quickly coming to an end.

I guarantee that China will scale faster, build faster, and ultimately produce far more chips than the rest of the world combined in 5 years.

Our export controls sank the west. It would have been better to allow them to use Nvidia chips. Now they will have chip fabs that aren’t quiet as good but way more of them. Their investment into sustainable will make the power so cheap that the less efficient chips will not be a relevant issue

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by brookst on Monday August 24, 2026 @11:43PM (#49428831)
Can you name one with parts ONLY made in China? Not Taiwan, not Vietnam, but China proper?
Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by SR2Z on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @03:01AM (#49430048)
Can you buy a good laptop without parts controlled by the US?

China has mastered lower parts of the value chain, but the most advanced and profitable ones (chips, turbines, frontier models) are solidly dominated by the US and its allies.

That might change, but when? The demographic and economic advantages that helped China rise quickly are exhausted. The Chinese economy is struggling to unwind the property bubble and manage a huge amount of surplus production that can no longer be sold to the US. The country is shrinking in population. Urbanization, which was previously a sure fire way to achieve growth, is now at ~70%, compared to the US' 80%.

It seems unlikely that China will be able to fully supplant the rest of the world unless the government relinquishes its tight control of the economy. There's just not enough centrally-plannable growth left.

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by adventured on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @03:19AM (#49430169)
Most likely it'll bifurcate.

The US will be (is) forced to work with everyone not named China or Russia, to ensure it can compete with China's concentrated industrial might. That means making iPhones in India, or Mexico, or Vietnam. That means Micron building more RAM production domestically. It should mean helping ASML stay out in front of China's incoming silicon wave. And so on.

It'll be China + allies vs the US + allies. It's going to be intense and very expensive. A huge amount of global manufacturing has to be built up outside of China.

And China does indeed have enormous problems brewing, including a staggering 5x increase in homelessness in just roughly seven years (to go with its collapsed housing market):

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2026/01/14/beijing-b...

Over the next 20-30 years robotics + AI will brutalize countries with very large populations when it comes to employment, especially those that depend on volume manufacturing heavily to absorb labor. The US for its part should be focused on rapidly shrinking its population, pushing up-skill, restricting immigration based on points (ala Canada et al.), and focusing entirely on quality of life / standard of living per capita as the population declines (let it happen rather than fighting the big trend, boost GDP per capita via robotics + AI, higher productivity).

I'd want to be a small, decently well educated, high functioning nation, with powerful military friends, and far from China. Estonia perhaps (Russia poses no serious terminal threat to them so long as NATO exists or a European alternative). Poland has some cultural mojo right now as well, they could be interesting over the next few decades.

Re:OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21) by MetaWhirledPeas on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @10:01AM (#49434309)
> robotics + AI will brutalize countries with very large populations > The US for its part should be focused on rapidly shrinking its population

Interesting to hear a new take. Not what you commonly hear. Most focus on the damage caused by a shrinking and aging population. What's your opinion on that situation?

I would think the trick will be the figure out how robotics + AI will enable a new level of elder care, but it's hard to imagine robots being delicate and nuanced enough to do that kind of work.