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Re:Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens as Reasoning/... by discreteevent on Friday August 21, 2026 @04:48AM (#49385485)
Would you want evidence that your your bicycle is not conscious? It can sense your inputs. It responds to the environment. The gears do multiplication (reasoning!).
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Re:Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens as Reasoning/... by Jtarii on Friday August 21, 2026 @07:09AM (#49386398)
To make the claim that an object is not conscious you need to both define what consciousness even is, then you need to make a machine capable of measuring it.

If you have done neither or those things then any claim you have about a bicycle's consciousness is just baseless speculation.

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Re:Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens as Reasoning/... by yreg on Friday August 21, 2026 @05:36AM (#49385798)
I think that the difference is that there is a vast gap in complexity and abilities, no?
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Re:Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens as Reasoning/... by discreteevent on Friday August 21, 2026 @06:57AM (#49386323)
What about a Jacquard loom? Is it conscious? There is a vast gap in complexity and abilities between that and a bicycle.
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