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Re:Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record... by tonyedgecombe on Sunday August 16, 2026 @05:53AM (#49318519)
>All the other countries in NATO are major food importers.

All apart from France, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Turkey, Italy and Ireland.

Interestingly the US is borderline now depending on how you measure food imports and exports.

Re:Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record... by messe on Sunday August 16, 2026 @06:13AM (#49318620)
Ireland isn't in NATO.
Re:Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record... by epolanski on Sunday August 16, 2026 @06:34AM (#49318751)
I'm Italian and I don't think you're right.

Italy is not food self-sufficient, it relies heavily on imports of cereals, animal feed, oils, and other.

We add value up the chain (with hams, cheese, etc), but bar fruits and vegetables where we are okay-ish, we cannot feed ourselves. Its been decades that even our own pasta is made out of canadian and us cereals. We simply don't have enough, let alone we don't have good quality cereals.

On top of that, our production is super reliant on imported fertilizers and chemicals. We would borderline starve in case of isolation.

Re:Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record... by IMTDb on Sunday August 16, 2026 @06:19AM (#49318658)
The us could probably half it’s calories intake and be fine, if not better, from a public health perspective.

The average ribeye steak you serve in your barbecue joint can feed a family of 4 in war time.

Re:Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record... by gentooflux on Sunday August 16, 2026 @07:12AM (#49318944)
Barbecue joints don't usually serve steaks. Tri tip, maybe, but if you're talking barbecue and beef then it's brisket.