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Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by Jackobrien on Saturday August 15, 2026 @08:15AM (#49309979)
Damn! If a solo engineer can do this, it makes the most around OAI/Anthropic start to look pretty weak.
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by dzbarsky on Saturday August 15, 2026 @08:48AM (#49310132)
This was nowhere near the top submission. But even if a solo engineer could get a top kernel, you don't think that having thousands of engineers, infinite tokens, and stronger models than are available to the public would give the labs a significant edge?
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by dejavucoder on Saturday August 15, 2026 @10:54AM (#49311106)
hello author here.

yes, it gives labs edge and leads to self-recursive improvement loops.

also i was myself able to finish 7th in a later competition with 2-3 other approaches which are variants of the method discussed in this blog.

in general, having a harness as thin as possible with some problem specific instructions while controlling for context rot is the key.

point i am trying to make is there are a lot of optimisation surface areas possible.

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by dejavucoder on Saturday August 15, 2026 @12:16PM (#49311792)
you may notice Kimi, GLM have also started telling how their model is able to optimise it's own inference pipeline

https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by datakan on Saturday August 15, 2026 @09:26AM (#49310365)
I don't know. That just sounds like throwing money at a problem until it goes away. I'm not convinced that is the correct path forward.
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by dejavucoder on Saturday August 15, 2026 @10:56AM (#49311118)
1. labs have lots of inference capacity 2. they will have domain experts working on this so their efficiency is gonna be exponentially more (can direct LLM better, save money, reach same results faster)
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by fooblaster on Saturday August 15, 2026 @01:18PM (#49312388)
You can't exceed roofline performance on hardware. There is an performance cap you can hit. This recursive self improvement stuff lets you be closer to the pareto frontier, but the idea that it is leading to some exponential growth is a total pipe dream.
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by dejavucoder on Saturday August 15, 2026 @01:34PM (#49312501)
fair enough
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by qeternity on Saturday August 15, 2026 @10:19AM (#49310813)
You say this like that isn’t how the vast majority of problems are solved…
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by genxy on Saturday August 15, 2026 @09:25AM (#49310352)
Does the edge matter? I know you added significant as your hedge, but once you have feedback, your gain is largely irrelevant. Gain buys you bandwidth, so we are constructing systems run by the most powerful corporations where they are now optimizing for latency, as Archer says, do you want to flash crash civilization? This is how you do it.
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by DANmode on Saturday August 15, 2026 @10:00AM (#49310631)
That’s not what a moat is =]

Which I believe was the word intended.

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by nullbio on Saturday August 15, 2026 @04:08PM (#49313851)
Yeah, but here's a dirty little secret that very few people are discussing:

You can't use Claude for this sort of thing if the goal is to make better AI systems. Anthropic finetunes Claude to dissuade people and the agent from using research that actually works. Anything that they use internally in their own models is poisoned, to protect their moat.

By proxy, that also means any openweights model that was distilled from Claude is equally useless for this purpose.

Thankfully, I don't believe OpenAI does this - they are far more honest and seem to care about their reputation. Anthropic is evil though.

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by esseph on Saturday August 15, 2026 @07:13PM (#49315178)
> Thankfully, I don't believe OpenAI does this - they are far more honest and seem to care about their reputation.

Bro. Sam Altman?

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by nullbio on Saturday August 15, 2026 @07:45PM (#49315396)
OpenAI is run by its employees and their culture is far healthier. Unlike Anthropic, they don't have a CEO that actively encourages their employees to be dishonest.
Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by esseph on Saturday August 15, 2026 @11:03PM (#49316522)
They have lost 12 executives in the past year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/14/open-ai-ipo-red-flag.html

Re:Auto-research with codex: How I achieved a 232x Faster Ke... by esseph on Sunday August 16, 2026 @02:16AM (#49317354)