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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by majormajor on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @08:23PM (#49190848)
Casablanca is a famous example of this too.

And LOTR, though in that case coming to it after reading Terry Pratchett was difficult for me (Pratchett didn't just copy its, or other, fantasy tropes, but send them up in an exceedingly clever way).

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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by themadturk on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @11:18PM (#49192015)
Having read LOTR many, many times before I ever started trying to read Pratchett, I can't read Pratchett. That's not a slam at Sir Terry; I'd just internalized Tolkien so much that it was beyond my ability to properly appreciate him.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by nython on Thursday August 06, 2026 @01:17AM (#49192769)
If you haven't tried it, Small Gods is frequently recommended as a standalone, and it's very far in subject matter from the early tolkien-parody rincewind/guards books.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by librasteve on Thursday August 06, 2026 @04:13AM (#49193930)
Tolkien, Pratchett … like Bach and Toploader?
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by tremon on Thursday August 06, 2026 @06:12AM (#49194741)
I'd say like Bach and Rossini. Rossini was perfectly aware of the form of traditional opera, but deliberately chose to engage with it in a much less reverent style.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by the_af on Thursday August 06, 2026 @01:47PM (#49199944)
Many Pratchett books aren't riffs on Tolkien at all. Someone recommended Small Gods (excellent choice, and not a whiff of Elves or Dwarves there) but many other Pratchett books are genuinely good and not cheap shots at Tolkien.

I say give it another try.

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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by roughly on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @09:11PM (#49191185)
Yeah, there’s a bunch of these. I really like finding these sorts of “ur-“ moments, the first time a way of doing things really crystallizes into something other practitioners can see. The Matrix is another one - that movie is the transition point from 90s cinema to the 2000s, and it’s a little clunky from a 2000s viewpoint, but if you look at everything that came before it, it’s so clearly a turning point.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by excalibur on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @11:28PM (#49192078)
Stop trying to steal The Matrix. It was released in 1999, that's OUR movie. You get the sequels.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by worldthruword on Thursday August 06, 2026 @11:02AM (#49197697)
I have escaped the Matrix [bits and bytes world]; But entered the Gastrics (juice) [ie flesh and bones world]
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by lstodd on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:28PM (#49191710)
I'd say if there even was a bump between 90s and 2000s it was not the matrix, it was Guy Ritchie. And then Gaspar Noe sealed that. Tarantino was having a smoke nearby.
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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by krapp on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @11:43PM (#49192179)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunn...

I think there was a case of a movie reviewer for some newspaper panning LOTR because of how "generic" and "derivative" it was. I don't know if that's true or an urban legend, though, but I can see it happening.

I also think its going to be a problem for the upcoming Neuromancer series. Unless they change a lot of things, the plot as written is practically cliche at this point, and a lot of it doesn't even make sense outside of the specific technological and political context of the time.

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Re:The title cards in Blade Runner are amazing by IAmBroom on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @11:57AM (#49274468)
A reviewer for the Dayton OH "City Paper" wrote a review complaining the "elves hate dwarves" trope was so overdone...

I shudder to think how he'll review Bill Shakespeare's romcom, after growing up on West Side Story.

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